1 key to trigger individual notes of sequence: round robin

[Vinc T]

but if its a follow action you cant make it be a scene control can you?
and you cant

what he wants is like if you had Run DMC "It's Like That!"
to play (on one button)
*tap* "It's"
*tap* "Like"
*tap* "That!"
(and keep repeating that sequence)

personally id rather have 3 different triggers :shrugs:

thats how i want it I just want to play a melody with my e-snare in the 'andre duracell' way

[Spiralgroove]

i think if you start looking at the options that legato and quantize can give you
that youll like using multiple notes better

[Vinc T]

i think i found the solution:

1) create a clip with one note in it, not looping
2) create a rack with for example 10 chains (corresponding to the amount of notes in your tune)with all the same instrument
3) in the chain select editor, give chain 1 zone 0, chain 2 zone 1 etc till 10 in this case
4) adjust every instrument till it gives the right sound/note
5) map the midi note of the e-snare to the chain selector and set min to 0 and max to 9 AND launching the clip
5) ready to play your tune with one midi note and one clip!

[Spiralgroove]

i think i found the solution:

1) create a clip with one note in it, not looping
2) create a rack with for example 10 chains (corresponding to the amount of notes in your tune)with all the same instrument
3) in the chain select editor, give chain 1 zone 0, chain 2 zone 1 etc till 10 in this case
4) adjust every instrument till it gives the right sound/note
5) map the midi note of the e-snare to the chain selector and set min to 0 and max to 9
5) ready to play your tune with one midi note and one clip!

i dont see how thats making the chain cycle...
you got it to work like that?

[Vinc T]

i think i found the solution:

1) create a clip with one note in it, not looping
2) create a rack with for example 10 chains (corresponding to the amount of notes in your tune)with all the same instrument
3) in the chain select editor, give chain 1 zone 0, chain 2 zone 1 etc till 10 in this case
4) adjust every instrument till it gives the right sound/note
5) map the midi note of the e-snare to the chain selector and set min to 0 and max to 9
5) ready to play your tune with one midi note and one clip!

i dont see how thats making the chain cycle...
you got it to work like that?

yes got it working! only, the velocity and the note length are always the same casue it triggers always the same note in the midi clip

it loops becasue you set the min and the max in the key mapping parameter, so after the last chain it jumps automatically to the first one again

[Spiralgroove]

i think i found the solution:

1) create a clip with one note in it, not looping
2) create a rack with for example 10 chains (corresponding to the amount of notes in your tune)with all the same instrument
3) in the chain select editor, give chain 1 zone 0, chain 2 zone 1 etc till 10 in this case
4) adjust every instrument till it gives the right sound/note
5) map the midi note of the e-snare to the chain selector and set min to 0 and max to 9
5) ready to play your tune with one midi note and one clip!

i dont see how thats making the chain cycle...
you got it to work like that?

yes got it working! only, the velocity and the note length are always the same casue it triggers always the same note in the midi clip

it loops becasue you set the min and the max in the key mapping parameter, so after the last chain it jumps automatically to the first one again

i guess ill have to build it... it doesnt make sense in my head that it chains, perhaps when i see it onscreen...

[polemans]

i would buy a 'drumkat' pad ( i have trying to do exactly the same thing for years). the drumkat has this function allready built into its onboard sequencer, then all you have to do is trigger a vst or sampler in live via the drumkat and hey presto.
they are expensive though, i am still saving up for one, and they are a pain to buy in europe. until i can afford one, all my melodies are completely randomly generated using the 'random' and 'scale fx in live... which is nice... sometimes.

[bigbadotis]

phat conductor was headed down this road, I read that thread, I'll see if I can find it.

phat conductor used clipFill mode in controlAid. At least that was what he was using a month or so ago.

and yes, clipFill mode allows you to do exactly what you want.

[Vinc T]

phat conductor was headed down this road, I read that thread, I'll see if I can find it.

phat conductor used clipFill mode in controlAid. At least that was what he was using a month or so ago.

and yes, clipFill mode allows you to do exactly what you want.

i am on pc , i found the thread http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=46833

So for now i think the way to do it with racks works! I think the principle is similar to the way with controlaid, for so far i read the desciptions. The only difference is that with controlaid you can manage the note, note length and velocity within the clip itself and using racks you have to manage it within the instrument you're using cause the 'rack way' uses the clip to triggger chains in the racks.

I'll give it it try to my e-drumsequencer,i remember now that there are 'kits' with melody patterns....if this might work like POLEMANS suggests.....than i feel so stupid not have thought about it before!

thanks for all the ideas!

[Vinc T]

i think i found the solution:

1) create a clip with one note in it, not looping
2) create a rack with for example 10 chains (corresponding to the amount of notes in your tune)with all the same instrument
3) in the chain select editor, give chain 1 zone 0, chain 2 zone 1 etc till 10 in this case
4) adjust every instrument till it gives the right sound/note
5) map the midi note of the e-snare to the chain selector and set min to 0 and max to 9 AND launching the clip
5) ready to play your tune with one midi note and one clip!

setup edit:

this setup works perfect to play the single notes of a sequece with the same key, round robin within Live!!

one instance of an instrument, one clip, adjustable notes and notelengths:

1) create a midi track and a second track with your instrument and route the midi to the instrument track
2) create one clip on the midi track with one note in it, not looping and map it to your e-snare
3) create a MIDI-rack with for example 3 chains (corresponding to the amount of melodies you want to use in your tune)
4) in the 'chain select editor' of this rack, give chain 1 zone 0, chain 2 zone 1, chain 3 zone2, and map the 'chain select ruler' to another midi note than the e-snare with min 0 and max 2, this is your key to cycle through the melodies
5) in chain 1 drop another MIDI-rack and create for example 10 chains (corresponding to the amount of notes in your melody). give chain 1 zone 0, chain 2 zone 1 etc till zone 9 and map the 'chain select ruler' to your e-snare with min 0 and max 9. repeat this for all 10 chains. (or copy ofcourse after havig setup one chain)
6) you can add to every chain in the second rack a 'pitch'and 'note length' where you can adjust these notes to obtain your melody!
7) ready to play your tune using one key and with one clip and one instrument, so actually the whole midi rack makes the round robin feature routed to an instrument on another track!

[Patch]

This is a peice of piss with a DM2 and DM2midi. Could not be easier. Pdoom really needs to make a universal software in the vein of DM2midi for use with all midi controller.

phat conductor was headed down this road, I read that thread, I'll see if I can find it.

you can get clips to control scenes with midi yoke.

The Phat Conductor Juggle Setup would be so easy to do if Pdoom made DM2midi into a standalone midi program...

[Tone Deft]

there was a tip in that thread about using the return key to play a clip then jump to the next one and wait. if that works, then you could use bomes to convert midi to send a return command.

[Vinc T]

there was a tip in that thread about using the return key to play a clip then jump to the next one and wait. if that works, then you could use bomes to convert midi to send a return command.

you are right about that, but i cannot make that after for example having triggerd 5 clips in this way, than it has to go back to one, that's only possible with clip follow actions, not possible with scene launch actions. what happens using enter, scene launche is only going down and down.....looks impossibel to make it cycle...

my rackproposal may read 'difficult' but after having it set up, it works easy and perfect...