I am trying out the update to Consequence. It will now output 3 channels of midi representing the data for each sound generator, thus allowing me to use my own synths in place of the native generators. I was pretty sure this would not work work in Live and I think I'm right on this (prove me wrong...please). Since there is audio output as well on the Consequence track, the only option you get on the second track (receiving track) is the option to have all midi together, nothing seperate. However, I had no issues routing the midi from Consequence in Reaper. But that got me to thinking...

1. Why hasn't this type of functionality been addressed by the Abe's? Regardless of the VST spec, this seems like something that should have been tackled by now. Is there just no demand for this?

2. What other VST plugins output midi data on multiple channels but also have audio output thus limiting the options for midi routing? (EZD, GURU, RMV, Kontakt,???)

3. Is the only way around this to use a product like midi-yoke?

I have other DAWs but I would prefer to use this in Live if there is a simple workaround.

im in the same boat as you.. SB should have atleast mentioned it was not possible in all sequencers..

Actually I have the impression there is not much demand for midi output of plugins.
For example, Logic on Mac doesn't support it at all.
Users are complaining from time to time on the forums but there seems no general interest.


For example, Kontakt has a very powerful script language that allows to generate and output multi-channel midi.
But I don't think it's used by many people in practice.


Yes, it seems so. The workaround is quite simple but you're loosing the perfect timing of direct plugin output.

Anyway, Max4Live will open up virtually unlimited possibilities of midi processing within Live.
So I'm very curious how multi-channel midi routing will be handled in this new context..

Thanks broc. I'll have to do a bit of research to figure this out but at least now I have a path to travel. Previously I had not been one of those looking forward to the M4L addition. That is no longer the case.

I'm still a bit surprised that there is not much demand for this but, oh well

I hear you but I'm not going to blast SB over it. I'm not sure if it's an issue of how Consequence exposes it's functionality or how Live implements it once it is aware.

Either way it looks like I'll have to scratch things out in some other fashion for a while (probably Reaper). Btw, I don't know if Reaper is an option for you, but if it is, try it out and you'll see that the separate outs works really well. Just using the presets I was able to get some very decent results using Zebra, Albino and Blue on the separate channels in place of the stock generators. I also put Chordspace in front of it to mix things up a bit. There's really a lot of possibilies here to explore. The only thing I see missing is the ability to do it in Live.