still no export to mp3?

patchdub · **Posted:** Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:09 am

this has probably been brought up before. but seems to me this is such an easy feature that is so handy for better work flow. yeah i can change a wave to mp3 in itunes but why not just be able to bounce down to mp3 in the first place?

Tone Deft · **Posted:** Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:17 am

there's no reason for Live to have a mp3 converter. mp3 is a lossy format, it could only make Live's sound quality look bad.

seriously, you can't find a way to convert to mp3? CDex w/ the LAME codec works great, PC only.

patchdub · **Posted:** Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:45 am

i already stated i can convert to mp3 other ways.

i am talking about quickening work flow. if i am working on an arrangement and want to email it to someone or walk around for awhile with it in my ipod i probably am gonna want to have that track be an mp3 to save space or upload time.

yeah its not as good sounding as a wave or aiff but sometimes that doesn't matter as much. its not really going to make live's sound quality look bad it will just make exporting more flexible like having different bit and sampling rates.

you think having the option to choose a sample rate of 22050 and 32000 is more useful than being able to bounce to an mp3?

Jekblad · **Joined:** Tue May 13, 2008 2:02 am **Posts:** 1855

i agree, there's a lot of times i'm JUST exporting to send a quick mixdown in an email, or similar situations that require ONLY an MP3. Pretty lame to have to reconvert and then delete the wav and then empty my trashcan. (a little extreme but you know what i'm sayin

shai · **Joined:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:07 am **Posts:** 473

it can be automated on a mac. folder actions . . import to itunes. . convert to mp3. but really, this is couple of clicks away after the uncompressed audio file lands on your desktop. i dont see the problem honestly

Imaulle · **Joined:** Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:46 pm **Posts:** 139

I say no to mp3!

LOSSLESS ONLY K THANKS

download advalame suite with latest lame
encode options, go to expert tab and turn on custom only and type in "-b 320"

davethedrummer · **Posted:** Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:22 pm

for goodness sake
what kind of answer is this?
patchdub is looking to render to mp3 and all you can do is suggest workarounds?
even though he has already said he has alternate methods.
come on man !
I totally see his point here , i have to send mixes via mp3 too
and exporting a rough mix to mp3 would be really useful
far more so than the sample conversion options which i never ever use.
that is a very good point.

keep the useless "mp3 vs everything else" debate for the other discussion pages please
I'm sick of reading about it.

The Phat Conductor · **Joined:** Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:30 pm **Posts:** 1696

i also want to render to mp3.

silveriofunk · **Posted:** Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:45 pm

I think that it shoould be an option, why not?

headquest · **Posted:** Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:55 pm

Tone Deft wrote:

there's no reason for Live to have a mp3 converter. mp3 is a lossy format, it could only make Live's sound quality look bad.

Yes, we don't want Live to have bad sound quality like Pro Tools, Nuendo, DP, Cubase, Audition, Sonar, and all those other DAWs that offer an MP3 converter. Perish the thought.

On second thoughts... yes, please can we have an MP3 conversion option? When I do quick recordings of students in Live the last thing I want is to spend lesson time opening up some other random programme just to convert the file to a format I can email them. A silly omission imho.

leedsquietman · **Posted:** Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:07 am

Sonar and Cubase only offer the mp3 export function on their premium product i.e. Producer Edition and Cubase SX/C4/C5 (not the SL or studio versions)

In both cases, you can buy the encoder for around 20 bucks if you have cut down versions i.e. Studio/Home etc.

I'm sure Ableton could include it if you didn't mind it adding 20-25 bucks onto the cost of the program, as licensing fees are paid to Thomson (who own Frauenhofer who hold the patent for mp3).

And where do you stop? if you get mp3, it will be aac, then FLAC and ogg vorbis, or real audio, etc that people demand - sure, Cubase and some other big name DAWS already have support for this, but only in their premium programs - and I ask them - where's the Session View !

Tone Deft · **Posted:** Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:50 am

I change my vote.

melocoton · **Joined:** Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:24 pm **Posts:** 391

leedsquietman wrote:

And where do you stop? if you get mp3, it will be aac, then FLAC and ogg vorbis, or real audio,

Or, you know... just the one format that everybody in the world uses and that every other DAW supports. mp3. And what are you talking about with "premium programs"? Logic is $500 in a box with manuals. Live is only $400... downloaded with no box and manuals, otherwise the same price as Logic!

Tone Deft · **Posted:** Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:26 am

melocoton wrote:

leedsquietman wrote:

And where do you stop? if you get mp3, it will be aac, then FLAC and ogg vorbis, or real audio,

Or, you know... just the one format that everybody in the world uses and that every other DAW supports. mp3. And what are you talking about with "premium programs"? Logic is $500 in a box with manuals. Live is only $400... downloaded with no box and manuals, otherwise the same price as Logic!

Logic is priced to sell more Macs, totally different business model, but a competitor nonetheless.

headquest · **Posted:** Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:29 am

Tone Deft wrote:

Logic is priced to sell more Macs, totally different business model, but a competitor nonetheless.

Price is definitely NOT an argument to use here. Sonar and even Cubase 5 are a similar price to Live, PT8 MP including the music production toolkit with MP3 export costs LESS than Live 8, Audition 3 also costs far les, and MP3 export options are also available in much cheaper programmes including Tracktion and REAPER. No, none of these programmes have a Session View, but they have all sorts of other stuff that Live doesn't have.

Bottom line, considering it is one of the most expensive DAW programmes available, I think it is just lame that MP3 export is not included (without a price rise).