observing clip state properties with a group track :-(

[julienb]

hello,

live.observe works fine with properties: playing_slot_index and fired_slot_index from the track object.

but it doesn't work with a group track

imagine a group track including N sub-tracks.
I only want to control all the group by firing, stopping slot from the group track (not by controlling sub-track)

impossible?
future feature?

I understand the problematic because if you fire slot 0 of a sub-track and slot 3 of another one, the group track behaves "as if" slot 0 AND slot 3 have been fired...
btw, there could be solution, no ??

here is the live set: http://code.assembla.com/protodeck/subv ... als?rev=73#
here is my patch:

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[3dot...]

I'm guessing that group tracks are more like 'inner scenes' ...
as apposed to clips...
(that is .. they also don't have 'follow actions / envelopes etc.')
their only function is so you'll be able to 'fold' you group...
my advice is to use plane ol' scenes to trigger the group..
at least for the time being...

[julienb]

my advice is to use plane ol' scenes to trigger the group..

I'm sorry, I don't understand the trick

[3dot...]

my advice is to use plane ol' scenes to trigger the group..

I'm sorry, I don't understand the trick

no trick.
what I was trying to say is...
the 'clips' only reflect what's inside the group..
they're not really functional..
so if you can't 'get' which 'global scene' is currently playing you probly couldn't get the 'group scene' status...
which makes sense ...being that clips have 'follow actions' and scenes don't
so the only reason to use them would be saving screen property...
...is all I was saying.

[julienb]

ok 3dot...
I'm using probably a strange method to handle this group (which is a dru group with 6 sub-tracks):
I trigger the whole group using mute to alter the structure of song.
so I'd only need to know which clipslot has been triggered.

I hope to find another way to do that

[julienb]

could it be a feature ??

imagine a group track called G.
3 subtracks called 1 2 3
playing_slot_index and fired_slot_index should be available for 1 2 3 but G too !!!

-- in my case, I only use track G trigger (I fire, all the clip of a same row in 1 2 & 3 are fired)
if I get playing_slot_index and fired_slot_index of track G, I get the row number or a list
-- in other case, imagine clip 3 is fired in 1, clip 2 in 2 & clip 4 in 3
if I get playing_slot_index and fired_slot_index of track G, I get a list like 3 2 4


if the result is a list, it means several clips in subtracks have been fired
if the result is a int it means all sub track has been fired

or for all case, the result of grabbing playing_slot_index and fired_slot_index could be a list everytime.
yes! it could be the better thing to do

when we get playing_slot_index and fired_slot_index of a group track, the result is a list:
[playing_slot_index_subtrack1, ... playing_slot_index_subtrackN]
&
[fired_slot_index_subtrack1, ... fired_slot_index_subtrackN]


please !!!!! add this for us

[pukunui]

Does the playing_status property of ClipSlot help you along at all?

There are also other properties of ClipSlots in there which deal with group tracks.

Let us know

Cheers

Andrew

[julienb]

I need to do that everywhere on the live set.
So the first natural idea I had was to use track properties, as track number doesn't evolve in my live set.
like that, I can observe easily all of that.

playing_status could be fine... but it would involve JS in order to do that "for clipslots in liveset" ...
and I'm dry about that but it could be the time to dive in... with a teacher