Using live.object you could ask the clip for its "color_index",
currently a number between 0 and 59. You could also set it.

The problem with this property is that it exposes too many
implementation details of Live which are about to change.
Also, there was no way get the actual RGB color value.

Therefore we are going to replace that property by a "color"
property which returns the actual RGB value combined into an integer.
The "color" property will not be settable for now.

Let me know what you think!

Ralf

This would break some patches designed for the Lemur, Iphone and other devices that rely on the API hack (Sysex and LiveOSC).

On the other hand, I agree the color index isn't much use. The parsing of the index number to the RGB values takes up more memory than it should. As you actually have to store the values either in a Max patch, Lemur script or whatever other method you use.
Are you using the same method as the Lemur for getting the RGB value into 1 integer? ((R x 2^16) + (G x 2^8) + B)

I found it very useful to set the Clip colors by a max patch but if "for now" means it will be possible
in the not so distant future....it´s fine with me.

Christian

well, the not settable part kinda sucks. i do not use it now, but that would have been a finishing touch sort of detail later for a few patches i want to make. not to look a gift horse in the mouth, but i don't see too much use for getting the color.

the RGB value would/will be a much better number to work with though.

I use live.color to get the colors which is enough for me.
Setting the colors from a device is not a good idea anyway...

OK.



You never know what the users are going to do with all that.
I mean, many will think as you do, and some applications will
expose bad style, but we cannot exclude that there are valid
applications possible, can we?

The question is just what the priorities are.

I'd probably create a device called "best sound ever" which just scrambles all skin colors in a rapid way and leave it all white if you close Live. Next time Live is opened you get a white screen and nothing to see...

Yes I think it would be bad style to change user preferences from within a device, but if its done carefully and reseting the original settings on closing, it could open for some fun uses. Maybe it is possible to protect automatically the user preferences after closing such a session. Maybe thats already the case...

Stefan

Ahh, here's the misunderstanding. We are not going to change the preferences.
We would like to allow the user to set a particular clip (or scene) to the
index from preferences with the nearest color (RGB) to the one requested by the user.

Yes, AFAIK. If not, we should modify it to behave this way.

it'd be cool to be able to set colors as well...
but not a prioprity for me..
not as essential as some other stuff..
(like a flag to enable sysex input..)
I guess this is true for all 'visible' parameters in live..
I would def rather be able to control them...than not

We really need to crack our heads on that Remote Control Surface stuff. It literally has a function called "handle_sysex".
All we really need is to know how. I bugged the people in the know of this a little too much. I've been told its coming soon.
All I've been able to do with that stuff so far is lock/unlock devices.
I reckon what we're missing is an actual script to select in preferences.

yep... I've been too busy this week to even open Live at home..
so I'll also try and research the remote thingie this weekend...
but if they said it's coming... then there's hope I guess...
I also found out that Jitter isn't crashing my system anymore...
so I'm gonna dedicate some time to that as well (!)
this M4L stuff is very exciting..

I think setting a clip's colour is useful, you never have too much feedback.
A clip could for example change from dark blue to bright blue to indicate it is playing, which would be clearer on a dim lit stage than just its play arrow.

Umm, I haven't managed to figure out a ton of stuff with max so far, but in terms of what use setting color would be (for me, and perhaps other dj's) would be using it to indicate a track's played state for a dj set. Any color for unplayed, red after play?

S

Being able to change clip color is pretty important for me. i have a patch which changes all of the clips in the selected scene white ( because who can actually visibly tell which clips are selected?) then when i change scenes it puts the proper colors back...
So, this is temporary while you good people update the code?

You had to of figured some idiot out there was going to be using this esoteric feature

also, scene color would be nice as well...