[c74] Random crashes while saving

[Jabbon]

me too, i thought it was only for the save as.
But no, I am unable to save any file in the Ableton world.
While I am able to save Max patches.
the problem seems to be related to file paths (something maybe other Max users know already), and yes, it remembers the patch it was working on, and yes, definitely something useful, and endlich also for the MAx world.


forgot to add

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OS Version: 10.4.11 (Build 8S2167)
Max 5.1.0b8 (40856) (5.1.0b8)

[Jabbon]

I do not get it.
1) Although Max crashes, it does save the patch.
2) And saving the Live project with the modified m4l patch will save in any case the m4l patch with its settings and objects, and eventually also pattr data if for example there is the attribute savemode 2 on, or?
then why can I save both in 2 ways?
I mean if i can save the patch directly into Live why isn´t there a "save as Max patch" option to differentiate the thing?
Or better, when I modify a patch why do I have to save it when I exit the edit window?
I know that the whole thing is moving in Max and communicating with Live, but what I do not undertsand is why instead of a saving function there is not a "compile as vst", like it was with Pluggo?
Can´t I just save everything at the end e basta?

Just curious here.
thanks

[jsn]

I now also experience a crash while trying to save an edit to the Buffer Shuffler. The first time I saved it under a new name and it did not crash. The next time I edited and saved my edited device Max crashes, but my I see my edits were saved when I go back to Live.

Edit: I just ran a simple test:

01. open new Live session.
02. drag a simple 4 bar drumloop to audio track in Live session window
03. add buffer shuffler m4l device to same track (no other devices in chain)
04. clicking device edit on buffershuffler device (Max opens)
05. changing # of steps range to 4 128 instead of default 4 32
06. saving as new device under new name
07. success - no crash
08. closing the Max presentation window by clicking "X" in top right corner (WinXP)
09. click edit device on my edited buffershuffler device
10. changing Hint text for # of steps
11. click save and no crash
12. leaving Max presentation window open (this time) and returning to Live session window
closing Max window with device edit button. no crash
13. click device edit
14. change modulation parameter for # of steps
15. click save - no crash
16. click device edit (max re-opens)
17. editing step range parameter again and clicking save
18. this time leaving inspector window open and closing max with "x" in top right corner
19. inspector window still open - no crash

i cannot seem to duplicate my earlier crash. i think this may have something to do with having certain max windows open but i am not sure. i will continue to play with this.

[LOFA]

I sorted out the install problem I had earlier and mfl seemed like it was running fairly well, but now that I have gone though the tutorials and I am trying to save devices in max, I find that it still won't let me. It crashes and I get that 9999 error again.

[solconnection]

just posting to report that this problem is still here with the latest live beta 8.1b8

[Phijel]

Still the same here with latest beta's

Max crashes simply by trying to save the default M4L generic device. Nothing else in the set (error 9999: internal error)

Also, like LOFA reported before, M4L device aren't updated in Live interface (they maybe are when saved, but I never had the chance to do so until now

Live 8.1Bb8 / Max 5.1.0b8 / MacbookPro 2.33 ghz intel Core 2 Duo /MacOsX 10.4.11 / 4 Gb 667 Mhz DDR2 SDRAM

[Jabbon]

As of today Mac b9 and Live b9 I can Save, Save As, and I get no "starting editor" stuck message.

without upgrading to OSX 10.6.

[LOFA]

As of 8.1b10 I get crashes in max when saving a patch (though it reopens saved) and I did also get an unexpected crash in Live, while patching in max- did not notice when it happened, and it was the first time Live crashed in a long time.

[stefan-tiedje]

Me to, 100% crashes not random crashes. I happily come by with my computer, I am in Berlin...
This slows testing very significantly, I hope I'll see a Max 5.1b10 soon or should I better go back to b9 completely...?

Stefan

[LOFA]

Like Stefan said, 100% of the time max crashes when I save patch.

[amounra93]

I had the problem with saving/crashing with b8....I'm on b10 now and so far so good....no crashing. I haven't edited any big patches yet, though.

[LOFA]

I had the problem with beta8.8 but it went away in 8.9. Now it's back with 8.10 but there is not any "9999" error, and the patch does save.

[pukunui]

This is known.

It is fixed in our builds. Live b10 requires MFL b10 to avoid this.

Sorry, but you're all going to have to wait a bit

-A

[stefan-tiedje]

But why is Liveb10 not released with Max b10 together? This doesn't make sense, I better should not have updated...

Now I don't know if the send/receive problem I seem to have will be fixed as well or not. Its a few days before the official release and it feels like it would need at least two months more.
(I know how things which feel almost ready can go wrong and I also know that it is possible that its close, but there is certainly not enough time now to test a release candidate as long as it would need to be certain that it works...)

Stefan

[LOFA]

I think that beta8.9 was running far better on my macbook than the first couple versions of Live 8. Sure it seems like there will be rolling content / changes, but I judging by what I have seen in the last week I would be surprised if they did delay it. I got my money ready.

Wow.