Hello
I have a question that seemed simple to me but have turned out to be really difficult.
How do i populate a live.menu dropdown object in runtime?
The thing is I want to have the values showing up on my midi controller and the only way to do that, as far as I know, is with the live.* objects.
I did get the feeling that I should use the pattr object, but is it possible (and how) to get that object to populate the live.menu?
populate live.menu
Re: populate live.menu
this is a hack.
untested, but i remember doing something like this in the past and it being fine.
is it what you want?
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</code></pre>
untested, but i remember doing something like this in the past and it being fine.
is it what you want?
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Re: populate live.menu
Very nice hack pid !pid wrote:this is a hack.
untested, but i remember doing something like this in the past and it being fine.
Though I really hope [live.guiobjects] will get the same features regular max GUI objects offer and vice versa.
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Re: populate live.menu
yeah nice hack indeed, but unfortunately the values only show up as numbers on my controller, so still not what i was looking for.
I have a feeling that what I want to do (populate a .live object in runtime) is not possible at all, so I guess I have to figure out an alternative way to do this. Thanks for your help anyway
I have a feeling that what I want to do (populate a .live object in runtime) is not possible at all, so I guess I have to figure out an alternative way to do this. Thanks for your help anyway
Re: populate live.menu
Its not possible for a reason.
The live.GUI objects are parameters. Once a parameter is loaded, it can not dynamically be changed.
You can't change a single attribute that is fixed in Live. This means you can't change the name, the range and parameter modes on the fly.
There's an automation lane with the range set in the object for example, that can only be changed by editing the device.
I've put in a request for a MIDI Learn object. Basically an invisible layer you can put on top of anything.
Meaning you would be able to MIDI map things like the rslider by putting 2 (or 3) of the objects on top of the rslider...
But we'll have to hope that one gets accepted.
The live.GUI objects are parameters. Once a parameter is loaded, it can not dynamically be changed.
You can't change a single attribute that is fixed in Live. This means you can't change the name, the range and parameter modes on the fly.
There's an automation lane with the range set in the object for example, that can only be changed by editing the device.
I've put in a request for a MIDI Learn object. Basically an invisible layer you can put on top of anything.
Meaning you would be able to MIDI map things like the rslider by putting 2 (or 3) of the objects on top of the rslider...
But we'll have to hope that one gets accepted.