Combining NI Battery with Drum Racks / Midi Effect Racks

Timur · Post by **Timur** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:32 am

For those of you who missed this in the other thread:

Under the following link I provided a Howto plus some prepared Live sets for combining Battery with the new Drum Racks of Live 7. It will enable you to do this:

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... post354563

Have fun!

Timur · Post by **Timur** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:54 am

For those of you who still use Live 6 there is a short mentioning of how to combine Battery with Midi Effect Racks so that you can give names to Live's Pianoroll just like with the Drum Racks.

Timur · Post by **Timur** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:44 pm

NI support told me that they have identified and analyzed the bugs with Battery's output channels and that the next update will correct it.

morerecords · Post by **morerecords** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:22 pm

Awesome thanks for that. Except... I don't use a MIDI interface, is there a way to route midi to multi channel MIDI instrument without? There doesn't appear to be

julienb · Post by **julienb** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:24 pm

grrrr... none of parameters of Battery is assignable ... it brought me to avoid Battery...

Timur · Post by **Timur** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:39 pm

morerecords wrote:Awesome thanks for that. Except... I don't use a MIDI interface, is there a way to route midi to multi channel MIDI instrument without? There doesn't appear to be

Huh, why Midi interface? Battery runs as VST and as such can be selected as an External Instrument, just use the dropdown menü and chose the Live track that Battery is loaded on.

morerecords · Post by **morerecords** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:46 pm

I realize what it is. I am limited because I am using a demo. I just ordered Live from Sweetwater should be here anyday I can;t wait. ////

Timur · Post by **Timur** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:30 pm

I am also using the Demo myself and there is no such limitation between "External Instrument" and Battery. Did you activate all output inside Battery's options (by default only the Master is active).

Timur · Post by **Timur** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:48 pm

julienb wrote:grrrr... none of parameters of Battery is assignable ... it brought me to avoid Battery...

What do you mean? Lots of the parameters are midi assignable, but unfortunately several are missing (like articulation aka roll/flam and such).

penningt · Post by **penningt** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:15 pm

Some fun with Addictive Drums too ...

http://pictransfer.de/uploads/admultiout86e00ef0JPG.jpg

Timur · Post by **Timur** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:36 pm

Your Rack plays note C-2 on all pads!? How does Addictive Drums know which sound to play? Are you using one Midi channel per drum-sound instead of one note per sound?

By the way, you don't need to create an extra Midi track for Addictive Drums, you can just put it on one/the first Drum Rack pad. Saves one track space.

penningt · Post by **penningt** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:05 am

WIth AD there are 40 or so midi hits ranging from C1-A#4 (Snare Rimshot, Snare Sidestick, Tom 1 Rimshot, Tom 1 Open etc) but there are only 12 audio out channels. The audio out is grouped into 1 of the 12 audio out channels.

Channel Out 1 - All Snare hits
Channel Out 2 - All Tom hits etc ...

Because there is not a dedicated audio channel out for each hit then I need to split the midi in from the audio out. So I start with 3 primary chains in my drum rack - 1 for all the audio outs (Multi Out), 1 for all the midi ins (Midi In) and one for the AD plugin (Master).

The audio out chain gets the audio from AD via external instrument "Audio From" in this chain
The midi in chain is just there to label the drum pads
The plugin chain is there to receive midi in straight from the track

Hope that makes sense?

penningt · Post by **penningt** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:07 am

Timur wrote:By the way, you don't need to create an extra Midi track for Addictive Drums, you can just put it on one/the first Drum Rack pad. Saves one track space.

I only have 1 track for the whole thing

penningt · Post by **penningt** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:10 am

Timur wrote:Your Rack plays note C-2 on all pads!? How does Addictive Drums know which sound to play? Are you using one Midi channel per drum-sound instead of one note per sound?

Forgot to say that I am using C-2 on these chains because these are for"audio out" only and I don't want the "midi in" being sent to AD on these chains.

Timur · Post by **Timur** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:20 am

Ah, grouping Audio outs that way seems to make alot of sense. I will try that with Battery, too. Since all your pads send C2 to AD for the sole purpose of being an Audio return. Does that mean that C2 is not playing any sound in AD?