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You're able to acknowledge the role taste plays in deciding if a DAW is 'better' (good for you), yet you completely miss the point that maybe -- just maybe -- your personal judgements about what is "wrong" in terms of business practice does not, in fact, represent the judgement of everyone else on ...

thecageofconsent wrote:I own Suite 8, with M4L, and my upgrade price is GBP 139

Surely some mistake?

Nope, your M4L is worth exactly 30GBP, and i suppose that is the "special offer" price which disappears 1 week after release?

No, ignorance is just ignorance. Maybe there is other software that beats Live hollow. In fact, I would like to know what else is out there - any tool that I can learn about is good...
It's not so much about what else is out there, that's only a matter of preference, just like Windows vs OSX vs ...

Hello,

I have Ableton Live 8 Suite + M4L and my price is 169€ (apparently after 12/03 will be 249€ )

What is the price for Ableton Live 8 Suite ONLY Owners?

How much my M4L is worth?
I have Suite 8 only (no M4L) and my upgrade prices are:
Suite 8 => Standard 9 = 129 Euro
Suite 8 => Suite 9 ...

i believe that. truly i do.

i also believe that if the company is selling something i want... they have a standard price, that for the most part, i'd be willing to pay.... and then they offer a lower price... i am getting a deal. i can wish the deal was better, but griping about it won't make it ...

^ well Mr. Wallet, welcome to capitalism and economics. please have a seat here next to Mr. Dreamer, Mr. Ideals and Mr. Irememberwhen. today we will have a discussion on how even creating your own company will most likely not change the way others do things.
No, that's what you were thaught to ...

There are probably 10x the number of lurkers or people who will come across this forum, than there are active posting members. I write for those lurkers, so they can learn something about how Ableton approaches customer experience and loyalty.
Exactly, and maybe there are 1000 people who will not ...

i would like to know how much people buyed it already. and how many percent of the ableton users are not fine with the pricing. maybe they are just a drop of water in a sea of users.
55 pages of confusion and frustration on this thread alone sound to me like a bit more than a few drops.
And ...

Sorry guys, I have to whine somewhere too :D

Really-really ableton, 3 years, fixed automation, (no PDC fix) and upgrade eq and compression to competitors level and asking the same price some ask for full DAWS?
Another unhappy camper here for sure.
+1
Logic for example is going way under normal ...

fishmonkey wrote:
hugs

Hmmm, best passive aggressive argumentation I've seen in a while. I can respect that

after that rant, maybe you are a dumbass, hard to say from here.

but, you are right. i wasn't paying enough attention, so my apologies.
Nice one :lol: It was not a rant, rather an attempt to explain you were obviously not paying attention indeed, and apparently I'm not that much of a dumbass ...

we are on page 54 of live 9 price whining thread...

maybe i didnt stated it clear enough. its all about the constant discussion and moving in a circle.

For me iam one of the lucky guys which used the opportunity of the moment and got live 9 suite for an acceptable price. How long does it take ...

did you even try it? the upgrade prices are also shown.
FFS man, do you think I'm retarded or something? That I don't know how to use Google or surf around a friggin webpage? I COPY/PASTED that text literally of the webpage. It does NOT show me any upgrade prices unless logged in. And when I'm ...

[email protected] wrote:Just spend your money and move on, or stay with the version you got! Simples

Thanks, exactly the information I was looking for... IMO it's that attitude that causes companies like Ableton to treat their customers like cattle that should be milked rather than respected customers. Keep it up.

Thanks for the good advice, but I just would like to know what the upgrade price is from Live 8 to Live 8 Suite + free upgrade L9.

log out of your account and go to the Ableton shop.

Yes, then you get the full prices. For upgrades though => "Already own Live? Log in to see your upgrade prices ...