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As I understand it, Ableton chose to statically bind to the avx2 library at compile and link time. So it would require Ableton to recompile without this option, which would create a new executable and installer. Others have said that avx2 is used to make the new ‘similar sounds’ feature performant ...

jonnoras62 wrote: ↑

Sat May 04, 2024 9:45 pm

Cheers, I've already done that. Also, I asked if they won't refund, would they give me a licence for Ableton Intro 11 (seeing as they've got my money for a product I can't use). Still waiting on an answer. Jon

I got a refund myself, so you should be ok

Xarkon wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:23 pm

. Anyone know whether the project files are backwards compatible?

Yeah they always have been backward but not forward compatible.
If saving it will prompt you to save under different name..

The AVX2 thing is a Windows thing. As long as your mac can run Big Sur, it'll run L12.


Can't see how it could be a Windows thing. AVX2 is an extension to the instruction set of your CPU, and not anything defined or definable in software, not without incurring the likely-massive performance ...

To people who point out that Ableton must have known before launch....

If they did, then:
(a) They would have signalled more clearly on the Purchase page re. System Requirements. They did not. They have now changed that.
(b) They have had Live 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11 running on my computers since 2008 ...

Eanna wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:35 pm

Stick to the M4L midi devices I've been using instead of the new Live 12 Midi features I guess..

Only to quote myself, on mature reflection... Hot damn! It still smarts, like a sore finger... Just didn't expect it! #anticlimax

At the end of the day, there should be zero code in the Ableton sourcebase that directly depends on AVX2 instruction set.
It's a flag you pass to the compiler, whether to bind to those lowest-level instructions or not.
Yes there would then be two builds of Ableton Live 12, for those of us with AVX ...

I share people's anger.
As others have said, I would not have spent money on this upgrade if it was clear that my system was rendered incompatible due to these changes.
What's worse is that there is no dialog presented saying "Sorry buddy, this CPU doesn't cut the mustard". I spent hours trying to ...

Hi, thanks Rory.

From what I understand, the Max7 Runtime emits better crashdump detail, in the event of crashes. But in my case with the glitching, I am not crashing. So in this instance, yes I'll generate a Status Report and get it to your Support address.

For me, it doesn't appear to matter ...

Hi, early indications are good here too.
Loaded Sonic Faction Sickness (big sample-based m4l synth), Time and Timbre, and Convolution Reverb Pro.
No crashes.

Things definitely had improved with Max 7.0.3, but this feels better again...

I still get Stuttering / Glitching behaviour when multiple ...

Hi Reimund, you have a couple of options here...

You can look at what patches were applied during the last round of Windows Updates. If you're on Win7, go to Control Panel > System and Security > Windows Update > View update history.
If you want to back out any update, go here: Control Panel ...

Just a half hour tonight with Live 9.1.7 and Max 7.0.2 on win7 (32-bit), but all worked well.

J74 Progressive, Sonic Faction Pulsator synth (memory hungry sample-based synth), and Convolution Reverb Pro, all loaded and played fine.
LiquidRhythm needs work to get it to work with Max 7. WaveDNA have ...

Yep, I use 7.0.2 max Runtime with live 9.2.x beta.
Didn't realise I could use it with 9.1.8 until Fab mentioned it above.

Double Post...

Edit: Fabrizio, you just beat me to the punch re. workarounds...

Cannot say that you are wrong in any way there Daniel. There is a significant issue with M4L, especially on Windows.

The three 'workarounds' that improve stability for me (but do NOT fix the inherent stability problem):
- Set your ...