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Just to clarify: I haven't even started checking and comparing sound quality of summing or time stretch etc. My only test and the only thing I was talking about was playing a straight wave file from disk, without any manipulation.

Oops, it logged my out again. That was me up there.

For anyone that thinks that if you critisize Live in any way it must mean you are either being too picky or working for Steinberg, why don't you try to think about it this way: Maybe this discussion will push Ableton to make a great thing even better.

Why not?

And regarding the question maybe Sound Forge colour the sound in some way, my guess is that it doesn't, because when listening to the recording in an A/B test with the original vinyl it sounded closer to the original compared to the file playing through Live.

I just thought about another thing:

Maybe the reason some people hear the differences while others don't has to do with the platform. I use a PC, but maybe on the Mac those apps do sound identical?

A question for the people that don't hear a difference - What platform do you use?

one more guest,

I am not surprised at all about people stop dancing listening to 128kbps MP3's.

And I do not think people will stop dancing if they will listen to my records through Live. I was just afraid they might loose just a little bit of the experience, just like I feel I loose a little bit ...

Guesto,

You make some great points, which I absolutly agree with. You might remember from our talk in that DJ thread a couple of months ago how much I do think in similar lines, and I thought this even before ever trying Live, just reading about it and realizing the potential.

Still, I feel I am ...

cathochic,

Thanks. I do know how to find the driver in Acid. My question was about Sound Forge, do you know?

muthafunka,

Thanks, I'll do that tomorrow because it's early morning here and I have to get some sleep!

Robert,

I would like to understand please: Do you say that what I experienced, ie different sound of the same file, *exact* same settings, between Live and Sound Forge, is impossible?

And if so - it means that there must be something different in the settings somehow somewhere?

drumroll57,

I really do appreciate your advice about maximizing my audio chain in the quest for a better sound. I am very interested in all the best options for this, however I'm afraid that at the moment (after buying my laptop and RME convertor), I can hardly collect the cash for my next (modest ...

muthafanka,

>Hey Purple, as a hint, if you want the best possible sound, lose the Numark, they're not exactly top-end to start with (if you want NICE sound get Allen&Heath etc), also, you're much better ditching the dj mixer altogether and using a hi-fi amp and getting some decent cables and even a ...

koranek,

Yes, I am using the exact same file, same hardware path etc.

Regarding the driver, that could be an important question but I'm not sure I know how to check for the exact answer..

On Live what I'm using is the ASIO Hammerfall DSP, on Sound Forge I am not sure what driver is being used. I ...

Porpy,

Yes, I have checked.

I did everything that you guys asked me to check, as far as I can recall. The difference was still there.

I just wish someone would do the same test as I did and come out and say that they hear it too!

Because the way I see it there is just two possibilities: Either ...

UknowWho,

DOG/BAT hybrid? :lol:

I wish!

Well, I don't know how great you consider my RME A/D/A to be, but it's supposed to be of really good quality, unless you are talking about a much higher price range.

I can only tell you what I hear. There is a *big* difference between the 16bit and the ...

Hi again,

My friend just left. I checked it again with him and asked for his opinion (he is a music producer). He listened to the song on Live for about a minute and commented that it sounded nice, then we swtiched to Sound Forge. He immidiatly said the song sounded better (even "much better") on ...