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by Machinesworking
Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:34 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Ableton Live 10.2 / 10.5 when?
Replies: 22
Views: 3181

Re: Ableton Live 10.2 / 10.5 when?

eyaaal wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:14 pm
True words.
I guess at least finally we're hearing something from them about mpe which is something in the right direction..
Yeah I skipped over that part. Thanks for reminding me. Hopefully we see something in the next couple years. :)
by Machinesworking
Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:57 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Ableton Live 10.2 / 10.5 when?
Replies: 22
Views: 3181

Re: Ableton Live 10.2 / 10.5 when?

LOL a new flanger, sadly it might be true:/ Actually i heard in the video that ableton itself asked if we're(ableton users) interested in implementing mpe. https://youtu.be/IyJJ1lwQ4Bw There is the video Seems silly, they know people want MPE integration. Yes, there will always be people who don't ...
by Machinesworking
Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:24 pm
Forum: Feature Wishlist
Topic: MPE support.
Replies: 184
Views: 52618

Re: MPE support.

I don't think the old metaphor of splicing bits from multiple tracks is necessary or desirable for an exercise in auditory comparison. Simply being able to split a clip into phrases and change the take used by each phrase is all that's necessary. As a guitar player, I can't stand that method, that'...
by Machinesworking
Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:49 pm
Forum: Feature Wishlist
Topic: MPE support.
Replies: 184
Views: 52618

Re: MPE support.

Yes. I can comp very quickly in Live, and I prefer it to lanes and multiple tracks. Yeah, some people like Reapers comping too... Sorry, having used Logic and DP10 I can flatly say that it's just a weak comparison. Comping is a workaround in Live, and I'm not that surprised, it's probably always go...
by Machinesworking
Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:28 am
Forum: Feature Wishlist
Topic: MPE support.
Replies: 184
Views: 52618

Re: MPE support.

downloaded bitwig the other day, not just the mpe is spot on but a ton of other shit :oops: LMK how you like the loop recording where undo deletes all takes, and entering stretch markers being unfathomably difficult with the mouse, and trying to use the mouse to only scroll on the timeline, and try...
by Machinesworking
Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:34 pm
Forum: Music and Audio Production
Topic: What's the ONE native plug in you'd like to see added to Live.
Replies: 40
Views: 2461

Re: What's the ONE native plug in you'd like to see added to Live.

A full fledged near Kontakt or Falcon level sampler. Live is one of the few DAWs that you can 'create' something like this in, but at the expense of your CPU, not unlike how Reaktor "could" create Massive. That's always an extra step as a plug in, saving and making sure a song or Set has all the Kon...
by Machinesworking
Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:37 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!
Replies: 34
Views: 5073

Re: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!

Although I rarely use 3rd party plugins, I always felt like Live and Bitwig are quite equal in this CPU domain, empirically. So I did a similar test using Diva "init" patch, the same 1/8 notes 1 bar midi clip in Live and Bitwig, 256 samples, 48Khz, no midi controller connected. On a 2009 MacPro her...
by Machinesworking
Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:20 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!
Replies: 34
Views: 5073

Re: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!

I'm sure that test dont tell the whole story. But the numbers are still impressive and at least when it comes to Diva, Bitwig is winning. But these days I'm not even sure if Diva is the biggest resource hog anymore. Certain patches in particular aren't that much different than typical softsynths. I...
by Machinesworking
Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:07 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!
Replies: 34
Views: 5073

Re: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!

Last comment from me: To be clear, I'm a skeptic as well, but the numbers don't lie. Unless you actually know how Bitwig is programmed you cannot draw such conclusions, I explained my reasoning above. Sorry, but blindly trusting numbers as shown here (especially such drastic ones) makes it very har...
by Machinesworking
Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:03 pm
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!
Replies: 34
Views: 5073

Re: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!

As you have noticed, the CPU speed is not any more going up as much as before. We have reached a long time ago CPU at 3GHz, and today's computers don't need more. Well kind of, CPUs are getting faster, but the clock speed isn't the only number that's important. Look at the tests, the 2.7 four core ...
by Machinesworking
Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:23 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!
Replies: 34
Views: 5073

Re: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!

To be clear, I'm a skeptic as well, but the numbers don't lie. Bitwig are doing proper multithreading on both my old Mac Pro and old Macbook Pro. I'm certain the numbers wouldn't be surprisingly different for more modern macs or PCs. These numbers represent single instances of Diva in INIT mode, pla...
by Machinesworking
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:03 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!
Replies: 34
Views: 5073

Re: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!

I'll be honest with you my friend, this sound amazing. Actually thinking of downloading the demo sometime soon after reading this and getting familiar with it, what would you say is the hardest part getting use to when switching from Ableton? I can't really tell you, I haven't switched yet. But one...
by Machinesworking
Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:19 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!
Replies: 34
Views: 5073

Re: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!

Because this stuff interests me, and I'm curious here are the results for the Mac Pro. The Macbook Pro on initial tests is showing really different results, so I'm curious about whether this is CPU or Graphics card specific in terms of Bitwig? 09 Mac Pro 12 core 3.33Ghz Xeon, 24GB RAM, Radeon RX 580...
by Machinesworking
Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:44 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!
Replies: 34
Views: 5073

Re: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!

Pardon me for being very skeptic here, up to a point where I'm having a hard time taking this serious (no offense). See: stress tests seriously don't mean all that much within this context. They're good to put load onto an engine to see how the engine behaves under stress, but that usually doesn't ...
by Machinesworking
Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:40 am
Forum: The Lounge
Topic: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!
Replies: 34
Views: 5073

Re: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!

It’s specifically Bitwig that’s getting fantastic performance though. It used to score the same as Live, which scores significantly lower than Logic, Cubase, DP etc.

They did something pretty amazing really.