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by Machinesworking
Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:37 am
Forum: Music and Audio Production
Topic: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!
Replies: 29
Views: 1900

Re: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!

Although I rarely use 3rd party plugins, I always felt like Live and Bitwig are quite equal in this CPU domain, empirically. So I did a similar test using Diva "init" patch, the same 1/8 notes 1 bar midi clip in Live and Bitwig, 256 samples, 48Khz, no midi controller connected. On a 2009 MacPro her...
by Machinesworking
Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:20 am
Forum: Music and Audio Production
Topic: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!
Replies: 29
Views: 1900

Re: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!

I'm sure that test dont tell the whole story. But the numbers are still impressive and at least when it comes to Diva, Bitwig is winning. But these days I'm not even sure if Diva is the biggest resource hog anymore. Certain patches in particular aren't that much different than typical softsynths. I...
by Machinesworking
Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:07 am
Forum: Music and Audio Production
Topic: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!
Replies: 29
Views: 1900

Re: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!

Last comment from me: To be clear, I'm a skeptic as well, but the numbers don't lie. Unless you actually know how Bitwig is programmed you cannot draw such conclusions, I explained my reasoning above. Sorry, but blindly trusting numbers as shown here (especially such drastic ones) makes it very har...
by Machinesworking
Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:03 pm
Forum: Music and Audio Production
Topic: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!
Replies: 29
Views: 1900

Re: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!

As you have noticed, the CPU speed is not any more going up as much as before. We have reached a long time ago CPU at 3GHz, and today's computers don't need more. Well kind of, CPUs are getting faster, but the clock speed isn't the only number that's important. Look at the tests, the 2.7 four core ...
by Machinesworking
Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:23 am
Forum: Music and Audio Production
Topic: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!
Replies: 29
Views: 1900

Re: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!

To be clear, I'm a skeptic as well, but the numbers don't lie. Bitwig are doing proper multithreading on both my old Mac Pro and old Macbook Pro. I'm certain the numbers wouldn't be surprisingly different for more modern macs or PCs. These numbers represent single instances of Diva in INIT mode, pla...
by Machinesworking
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:03 am
Forum: Music and Audio Production
Topic: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!
Replies: 29
Views: 1900

Re: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!

I'll be honest with you my friend, this sound amazing. Actually thinking of downloading the demo sometime soon after reading this and getting familiar with it, what would you say is the hardest part getting use to when switching from Ableton? I can't really tell you, I haven't switched yet. But one...
by Machinesworking
Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:19 am
Forum: Music and Audio Production
Topic: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!
Replies: 29
Views: 1900

Re: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!

Because this stuff interests me, and I'm curious here are the results for the Mac Pro. The Macbook Pro on initial tests is showing really different results, so I'm curious about whether this is CPU or Graphics card specific in terms of Bitwig? 09 Mac Pro 12 core 3.33Ghz Xeon, 24GB RAM, Radeon RX 580...
by Machinesworking
Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:44 am
Forum: Music and Audio Production
Topic: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!
Replies: 29
Views: 1900

Re: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!

Pardon me for being very skeptic here, up to a point where I'm having a hard time taking this serious (no offense). See: stress tests seriously don't mean all that much within this context. They're good to put load onto an engine to see how the engine behaves under stress, but that usually doesn't ...
by Machinesworking
Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:40 am
Forum: Music and Audio Production
Topic: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!
Replies: 29
Views: 1900

Re: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!

It’s specifically Bitwig that’s getting fantastic performance though. It used to score the same as Live, which scores significantly lower than Logic, Cubase, DP etc.

They did something pretty amazing really.
by Machinesworking
Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:06 pm
Forum: Music and Audio Production
Topic: Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!
Replies: 29
Views: 1900

Bitwig drops the CPU Bomb!

So, in a thread on another forum about various DAWs and CPU usage I was prompted to run a performance test again. I'll come back to this thread with Lives results, but we were talking about Logic, Digital Performer, Reaper and Bitwig. Running a simple test of the INIT patch Diva instance playing an ...
by Machinesworking
Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:43 am
Forum: Push discussion
Topic: Ableton Push 3 update
Replies: 57
Views: 37477

Re: Ableton Push 3 update

Akai Force is basically Ableton Live in hardware form. It's compatible with Live as a Push type controller as well. You can play the clips in Force at the same time you're playing clips in Live, and switch fairly quickly the interface between the two. If I was all in on Ableton Live, this would be t...
by Machinesworking
Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:27 pm
Forum: Feature Wishlist
Topic: Goodbye Ableton: no mpe I am out
Replies: 11
Views: 778

Re: Goodbye Ableton: no mpe I am out

It's super easy to edit in Cubase with Note Expression, and in Bitwig. Just saying... Sure, it's just not the type of playing that IMO should be edited. I mean why do you need MPE if you're editing it? It's basically about being able to play a part with 5 different parameters of a sound available i...
by Machinesworking
Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:53 pm
Forum: Feature Wishlist
Topic: Goodbye Ableton: no mpe I am out
Replies: 11
Views: 778

Re: Goodbye Ableton: no mpe I am out

As a confirmed DAW slut I own Live Suite, Reaper, Logic X, DP10, Reason, and MPC2. Only Logic and Reaper can do MPE, but honestly I don't use them more because they can. I have a Rise 49 here and both DP10 and Live 10 have easy solutions to MPE, With DP10 Create Tracks and Track Grouping make it les...
by Machinesworking
Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:13 am
Forum: Feature Wishlist
Topic: MPE support.
Replies: 168
Views: 37150

Re: MPE support.

I don’t use MPE a lot, but it does strike me as something Ableton would’ve been all over if it were easy. A bad, but understandable early design decision not to deal with all MIDI data coming home to roost. Just wondering how everyone would like to see it implemented. Yeah, a lot of odd little tick...
by Machinesworking
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:15 pm
Forum: Music and Audio Production
Topic: Vienna Ensemble Pro
Replies: 19
Views: 3467

Re: Vienna Ensemble Pro

Currently unlike Cubase or Logic etc there seems no way of accessing MIDI ports other than 1. So, first of all I fail to understand the relevance between this comment and this 5 year old thread. But I also question the comment itself to be honest, if you could only use one MIDI port you'd never be ...