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I am resurrecting this from the grave, to give an easier solution.

You can actually apply the groove to the MIDI notes themselves, by clicking the Apply button (or the pointing right arrow button in 11) in the groove section of the clip. The groove will then go away and the notes on the piano roll ...

I am having the same issue and have both the plugins mentioned. As I was using 10 Lite and was thinking of upgrading to 11, I downloaded a trial of 11, but as I can't reach tech support with my current license, I am left to figure it out on my own.

Here is a reddit thread I started while keeping ...