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I now realise that in rewire slave mode Live cannot host vst instruments. So it's audio only.

My original plan was to use Live for all audio and midi arrangement and SX to handle effects and mixing. But that is now toast.

As a loop explorer I can use Acid - it previews midi as well as audio. I ...

Crucial to getting that commercial kick is invisible compression. Where you duplicate your kick track and apply eq boost and compression to one of the tracks then mix both to a bus with a limiter.

There's a good article on SOS that explains how to do it in Logic but you can use the same method in ...

No wonder people end up using cracks. :roll:

I agree. I it widely known in the software industry that of the people who use cracked version, very, very few of them would have bought the product otherwise. Those who form the vast majority of Live's user base will always buy the product.

Therefore ...

I see.

What you're suggesting would be absolutely right if I were working with just Live alone. But since I would be using Cuabse as the mixer and effects processor it seems pointless to do what you suggest in Live when it can be done in Cubase.

That sort of leaves me with Live as just a loop ...

I've just got Live rewired up to Cubase SX and was about to try out an arrangement.

I had assumed that loop manipulation in Live would be as complete as in Reason for example. But in case I'm missing something I seems like I can't manipulate loops at the slice level (pitch shift, delete, move etc ...

I've just hit a bit of a drawback. In Rewire mode Live will allow me to create a MIDI track - but won't allow me to put a VST instrument onto it. Therefore I can't route the VST output to Cubase.

So Live Rewire is just about audio channels?

SX3 is going to have warping, and if they include a loop explorer as well...

And on Windows XP too so it seems. SX on the Mac is an appaling pile of bug-ridden scrap anyway - but on the PC it takes some beating.

I had a read of that post in the cubase forum and un-installed Reason from the PC (not that I'll miss it).

And the problems have gone away. Seems like it's a cross platform issue after all.

Thanks, actually this is on Windows. I tried a second time and Live popped up a message say "Problem with Rewire Master" then crashed. The I got a Blue Screen!

I did then pop over to the Mac and try Live rewired with Logic - absolutely perfect - and Reason is installed there also. I'm going to try ...

Got it up and running but there's a lot of audio breakdown. The Live CPU meter is reading zero, the SX meter is reading less than 5% yet there are dropouts all over the place.

I can seriously load SX with VSTs and Effects and this doesn't happen at all. What am I doing wrong?

By the end of this year there will be a whole crop of apps that do warping, already there's Sonar then there's SX3 and Samplitude 8.0 will do it also.

Remember, Cuabse already supports the Rex format and beat-slicing which is useful if like me you've got a whole load of them.

Steinberg will be releasing SX3 next month. It's rumoured to have real-time warping, pattern-based sequencing etc. One to watch...

I had been wondering why the CPU meter was reading 70-80% so decided to strip the project down and see where the cpu hog was.

It turns out that for every Waves Q10 (or any Waves plug) I add to a track, 2% of CPU is consumed - even if there is no processing going on.

This is on Windows, so I jumped ...

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