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... programs which use timelines and allow segments of arrangement to be encapsulated. I proposed that these should be possible in Live and called "MetaClips". Like an expansion of a scene, but also atomic in that a meta clip on a track could contain a sequence of clips (pulled from the timeline)

A ...

I strongly approve of this idea and believe Ableton should get on it.

However, I do have the suspicion that this sort of idea (encapsulation ) has been suggested for nearly 20 years and has had no movement so far. But we can hope. Perhaps lucky number 13 will bring some more flexibility and non ...

I’ve not shared it yet and for now it only emulates random follow action.
The basic idea is to gather clips into a single one, x time longer than the original, one after the other, and to jump randomly in multiples of the original length every y beats.

chapelier fou wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:17 am

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I’ve made a m4l device to solve this issue, but it’s not ideal.

what is the name of this device?

+1 Great idea!

I posted a similar feature request, but as a redesign of group tracks, check it out: viewtopic.php?t=248796

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I’ve made a m4l device to solve this issue, but it’s not ideal.

Bump !

eighteen years later

... screen, like it's 1996 and we are working in Cubase VST ! I'd have imagined that Ableton would allow us to make sections into what I could call "MetaClips" - grouped clips which can be re-arranged, and even drop sections of arrangement into Session to be triggered.

https://forum.ableton.com ...

... to know that?

We'd require sig change markers in the clips themselves, and clips don't contain regions and markers

So until Ableton implement metaclips (clips which can contain other clips) it can't really happen.

I believe a forum user suggested metaclips as a genius solution around 15 years ...

... Live cannot do. It can't overdub audio into clips.

If we ever get the long hoped-for comping feature, or (like bitwig) audio regions in clips / MetaClips (!)
then it will become possible. But for now it would take two parallel tracks in a group. So consider tracks 1, and 2, in the group. We record ...

... pulled from the Project folder. Of course this would require an upgrade to clips so that they can contain regions etc. Hey , let's call it " metaclips " like I proposed in 2005 and BitWig implemented in 2015. EH?

Ableton Live 9 now has clips containing automation .. so why not clip sub-regions ...

... to tussle and compete for features.

I'd certainly like to see a lot of Bitwig features in Ableton. Multiple regions in a clip for instance, and Metaclips, all that stuff thats been on the forum wishlist for years. It would be nice if some of that made it in.
TBH a new browser and a decent snap mode ...

... features in point versions. What next - comping in version 1.4? Melodyne ARA ?

What will the headline features of Live 10 be?
Poly aftertouch?
Metaclips / arrangement groups?
Multitouch?

Seriously. Ableton have to lead their L10 release with some features which are not already in the version 1 of ...

... features in point versions. What next - comping in version 1.4? Melodyne ARA ?

What will the headline features of Live 10 be?
Poly aftertouch?
Metaclips / arrangement groups?
Multitouch?

Seriously. Ableton have to lead their L10 release with some features which are not already in the version 1 of ...

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