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by Green Lemon
Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:58 pm
Forum: Ableton Live
Topic: Man made Global Warming is not taking place
Replies: 174
Views: 19069

Re: Man made Global Warming is not taking place

I'll not bother to quote myself but if you actually *read* my post you'll notice that I spoke of our moral obligation to help "small, poor" countries. Do you think China and India are small? I have no backward view at all of China and India, or other developing economies. In fact, I live ...
by Green Lemon
Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:36 pm
Forum: Ableton Live
Topic: Man made Global Warming is not taking place
Replies: 174
Views: 19069

Re: Man made Global Warming is not taking place

Cool, you're in a good position to be able to explain to me why out of 928 papers on the subject not one disagrees with the IPCC consensus, but that's not enough. No more than amnyone else - the reasons for that lie in politics, not science. Anyway as you picked up on the first thing said only, I a...
by Green Lemon
Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:20 am
Forum: Ableton Live
Topic: Man made Global Warming is not taking place
Replies: 174
Views: 19069

Re: Man made Global Warming is not taking place

You know, about the food/fertilizer/hydrocarbon problem, there is an alternative line of thinking which does not lead to mass dieoff: Yes, current industrial crop yields are unsustainable without massive petrol based fertilizer inputs. However, there is still today a fuck of a lot of farming which i...
by Green Lemon
Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:10 am
Forum: Ableton Live
Topic: Man made Global Warming is not taking place
Replies: 174
Views: 19069

Re: Man made Global Warming is not taking place

So, I'd like to make an assumption that you, like me, are not enough of a climate scientist to actually examine the data and study the trends for yourself to form your opinions. My original chosen career path was oceanograpy, but I ended up in software development, and dropped out earl to start a s...
by Green Lemon
Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:51 pm
Forum: Ableton Live
Topic: Man made Global Warming is not taking place
Replies: 174
Views: 19069

Re: Man made Global Warming is not taking place

Some musings and thoughts: 1. I havnt seen anything that says conclusively that man is responsible for global warming. So, I'd like to make an assumption that you, like me, are not enough of a climate scientist to actually examine the data and study the trends for yourself to form your opinions. Th...
by Green Lemon
Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:35 pm
Forum: Ableton Live
Topic: Man made Global Warming is not taking place
Replies: 174
Views: 19069

Re: Man made Global Warming is not taking place

Cool. Now we're two. Wanna start a commune? We can let Emissary join too because he can garden and he knows how to field strip an AK-47!
by Green Lemon
Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:01 pm
Forum: Ableton Live
Topic: Man made Global Warming is not taking place
Replies: 174
Views: 19069

Re: Man made Global Warming is not taking place

There's not only solar available, and yes, there's a hell of a lot more coming in than we need. I really think the question boils down to whether as a global society we can choose to go in that direction. Its really quite possible, for energy usage there is plenty. (Fertilizer, that's another questi...
by Green Lemon
Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:46 am
Forum: Ableton Live
Topic: Man made Global Warming is not taking place
Replies: 174
Views: 19069

Re: Man made Global Warming is not taking place

crofter wrote:Melt all the fat bastards down and turn them into bio-fuel :twisted:

Wow, that's a strikingly original and perceptive idea!
by Green Lemon
Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:45 am
Forum: Ableton Live
Topic: Man made Global Warming is not taking place
Replies: 174
Views: 19069

Re: Man made Global Warming is not taking place

Yeah, yeah, I know all that, been through it several times in my own head. But there is the possibility you are wrong as well, that we will find someway to squeak through. As I pointed out to you the other day, you are imagining a scenario first projected by Thomas Malthus, and he was wrong, and thi...
by Green Lemon
Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:34 am
Forum: Ableton Live
Topic: Man made Global Warming is not taking place
Replies: 174
Views: 19069

Re: Man made Global Warming is not taking place

My city in Indiana was once a tropical sea, then a frozen tundra and now very temperate. The earth will cool and heat and mankind can do very little to affect it either way. The people pushing hardest for anti-man, anti-reason, anti-achievement, anti-freedom "Global Warming" politics are ...
by Green Lemon
Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:29 am
Forum: Ableton Live
Topic: Man made Global Warming is not taking place
Replies: 174
Views: 19069

Re: Man made Global Warming is not taking place

We're not wasting any brainpower on that until we've settled whether Sonar really is warmer than Live. :twisted:
by Green Lemon
Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:22 am
Forum: Ableton Live
Topic: Man made Global Warming is not taking place
Replies: 174
Views: 19069

Re: Man made Global Warming is not taking place

My city in Indiana was once a tropical sea, then a frozen tundra and now very temperate. The earth will cool and heat and mankind can do very little to affect it either way. The people pushing hardest for anti-man, anti-reason, anti-achievement, anti-freedom "Global Warming" politics are ...
by Green Lemon
Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:21 am
Forum: Ableton Live
Topic: Man made Global Warming is not taking place
Replies: 174
Views: 19069

Re: Man made Global Warming is not taking place

Get on the game. Life is adaptation. Is China gonna kick our ass at this, too? We'll have only ourselves to blame. Really? It sounds like life is about placing regulatory burdens unequally on developed countries so that developing countries have a chance to make their own polluting economies. Is Ch...
by Green Lemon
Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:49 pm
Forum: Ableton Live
Topic: Man made Global Warming is not taking place
Replies: 174
Views: 19069

Re: Man made Global Warming is not taking place

I don't mean to be rude, but I don't think you fully appreciate the economic consequences of what is being proposed as a solution for AGW. Again, it's not just that evil corporations will lose money and everything will go green and lovely and we'll all be rich from finally doing the right thing. Wh...
by Green Lemon
Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:30 pm
Forum: Ableton Live
Topic: Man made Global Warming is not taking place
Replies: 174
Views: 19069

Re: Man made Global Warming is not taking place

This pretty clearly shows that whatever else, any "controversy" in the scientific community over AGW is extremely isolated. In other words, controversy has been manufactured in our media system, because the word controversy implies something like equal footing to both sides. The peer revie...