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why the hell did you make two threads on this? I just edited the subject of the other thread to say "MIDI Export" about a 1/2 hour ago. I just checked the board, and I found this thread posted in my name, that begins with some seemingly random message that I posted from the other thread.....

Your ear can't tell, but it does highly color the feel of a sequence if you work with finer-grained timings. That's an interesting claim. How about posting two MP3 tracks that differ only in micro-timing and let the rest of us find out by experience how easy or hard it is to tell the difference bet...

Regarding live sounding less tight then logic.. This is far fetched but just in case: did you check delay compensation? Im switching it on and of all the time. If its on, midi keyboard latency is late but sequencer timing is good, and if its of lives midi timing is sloppy but controller latency is ...

It looks like the import MIDI file works as expected, thankfully ! I imported both the original MIDI track at 960 ppqn, and the one that was exported out of LIve. I set the tempo to 20 bpm and zoomed in on both tracks.. sure enough, there original track seems intact, and looks and sounds much differ...

I'm going to take some time off from this and run some more tests within the next few days..
I'll post any more findings.. and I hope that it's just the export function..

thanks for the help..

Tom, did you check to see if Live's hi res midi file import was ok? No, I'm working on that.. I hope so, since I'm generating a lot of MIDI algorithmically and bring it up in Live.. I would like to know just how Live is handling it, since sometimes my MIDI tracks sound better, sometimes they don't,...

so you still think logic sounds 'rounder' ? I'm judging that based on sequences that were generated from an algorithmic composition environment in Ruby where I specifically set rhythms to Pi and Golden Ratio, etc.. Then I import the same file into both Logic and Live, and Logic sounds better. I'll ...

Now it's up to you to submit the problem to Ableton Tech support and come back with an answer on why there is a difference between the two!!!! :D :D :D sounds good.. i'll do it tomorrow or the next day.. time to get back to making music ! :) I'm gonna do some more tests at a very slow tempo to see ...

Here's the original file's tick values in Logic:



Here's the imported/exported from Live version, viewed in Logic:

Very cool ! Thanks for the heads up )

I thought that there was hope there for a moment.. I did the test again with the grid set specifically to "off" and got the same results.. I don't usually work with the grid on so I didn't think to check it. Is there a place where the visual grid differs from the quantize grid? Because I m...

Hey Tom, when you imported your 960 PPQN midi file into Live, what was your grid set to in the midi editor window? I don't have the file you are working with, but I have at times noticed Live moving events to what ever grid I have set up which is why I often turn the gird off. I'm just wondering if...

Your ear can't tell, but it does highly color the feel of a sequence if you work with finer-grained timings. The reason why I did the test in the first place was because my sequences sound better in Logic and I wanted to know if the resolution had anything to do with it. I can still use Live for mor...

i posted in the wrong place, and can't find out how to delete it.

and this thread mysteriously appears !

I swear, I did not repost this..