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:arrow: Tom (in particular) do you know of a service that showed you how to get set up, and retain as much control over your music, whilst maximising the income and not paying out %'s here and there to 3rd parties? Doing it all yourself. All the info you need to choose your preferred navigation of t...

But I have to really say, the whole debate over Taylor Swifts pull out from Spotify in the mainstream media and specifically in the comment sections there, gives a picture of a disgustingly selfentitled (to our work) audience we apparently want to make music for. How do you cope with that?! :x Mayb...

Another way to see it? "And when will artists realize getting paid forever is better than getting paid once?" http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2014/11/10/customer-king/ It's been interesting and helpful gents. I'm done. Thanks ohigetbywithalittlehelpfrommyfriends, Tom etc......

So you're ok with 0.009 and Pandora? Problem solved then.

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"Swift's music remains on Pandora, which reportedly pays on the order of 0.009 cents per stream of a song."

http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/11 ... o-pandora/

" “It was saying she didn’t think her music should be free. She doesn’t want her music played on an unlimited, on-demand free service with ads. It wasn’t anti-streaming: it was anti that type of streaming,” said Bay." (http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/nov/10/rdio-spotify-taylor-s...

What accounting difficulties Spotify may have is of no interest to me. My point was not about accounting issues (that's a tangent) so much as it seems the streaming model is here and not going anywhere soon. I can't say for sure, but that appears to be the case. But is it?! If it is not scaleable f...

...and the music vs t-shirt thing... A t-shirt is not delivered via a secondary medium. The T-Shirt is the product. It's price is governed by the chain of process and events that lead to it being sold. Apply that to music and you are saying your album is only worth the medium that it's delivered by?...

What accounting difficulties Spotify may have is of no interest to me. My point was not about accounting issues (that's a tangent) so much as it seems the streaming model is here and not going anywhere soon. I can't say for sure, but that appears to be the case. So surely, how they and other compan...

"they don't allow you to do anything with your music." What do you understand that to mean? I think this is what happens when PR speak tries to frame a sensible position in a way that offends no-one. If you read between the lines, then I think her/her lables position is not so different f...

ohigetbywithalittlehelpfrommyfriends wrote: "they don't allow you to do anything with your music."

What do you understand that to mean?

Is the consensus here that streaming services are basically the same model as radio broadcasts and that no-one should expect to get paid more from streaming per listener (as measured per listen) than what they would get from the same amount of listeners if played on radio? Spotify and other seems t...

Best article on it yet? http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2014/11/06/spotify-5/ Of course it would be nice if it was like 20 years ago again and thinking on it, we should have totally made the most of then, before the arse fell out of it. Capitalised on it all. Most people thought it ...

Best article on it yet? http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2014/11/06/spotify-5/ Of course it would be nice if it was like 20 years ago again and thinking on it, we should have totally made the most of then, before the arse fell out of it. Capitalised on it all. Most people thought it w...

Spotify would survive just fine because recorded music still needs to be distributed. I think that you could be paid any number of ways... Per project at a flat rate, monthly at a flat rate, etc etc. You prove you're eligible by producing music. Period. Folks won't earn a ton with this but as long ...