Ableton Forum

Sasha always uses Dells, that's all I need to know.

wilxon wrote:who would have thought that a bit of boredom on a rainy day would turn into an 8 page thread.

I did. I masterminded the fastest growing thread in the history of the forum.



Big money riding on these races.

If Ableton themselves are happy to tolerate cracks then obviously I would be inane to continue to request, as a PAYING customer, that they get rid of the discussions of cracks from the forum. My u-turn as you call it, is moreso resigning myself to the status quo. Ableton don't need defending if they...

So its settled then, cup of tea anyone ? Sure, I'll pour and do the washing-up afterwards. 8) That's setlled then....apart from who you normally are on here ;) I better register a name of "humble pie" for my next groundbreaking debate. Next time I'll go liberal. It is more of a peopleplea...

b0unce wrote:So its settled then,

cup of tea anyone ?

Sure, I'll pour and do the washing-up afterwards.

oh, and also - like I said LOADS of people go on to buy the software after using the crack, check out the poll allison set up http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49577 50+ people so far have voted that they used the cracks then bought the software. And many didn't vote at all, so the poll ...

cant empathise with broke-ass people who need to use the crack for a while to find out if the software is really for them that is what the demo is for. I've no sympathy for broke-ass people who can't afford stuff, but think they are thus entitled to steal it. Fair enough if it is a vaccine for a dy...

Anyway, I will shut up now. I was "probably" just trolling a bit on this lively topic. I see my poll as a piece of ironic art. It is in itself a discussion of piracy. Bob Henke is right, and I think we all do recognise the 'necessary evil' aspect of cracks. Ultimately Ableton's attitude as...

Most of the crackers do say "if you use this software often - then go and buy it" If nobody bought it - no money to develop it - no future releases. The crackers justify their cause by saying that its for demo purposes anyway. I've seen some jingle at install whereby the cracker justifies...

currently the large majority (61%) of the poll voters agreed with the option: " I learn a lot from the profound wisdom of the crack users who proudly justify stealing from Ableton and legitmate users" somehow I think mr moral-high-ground, who created the poll, didn't anticipate that outco...

You forget a lot of Ableton Live users started out with cracked copies and eventually bought a copy because we finally had the money. Me included. Piracy is wrong, but its a great way for people who have very little "like those crazy teenagers who don't have $500 to blow every day," to le...

And Forgie, I do believe it is wrong to pirate any IP. The vast majority of the arguments are about the IP of luxury items that people don't want to pay for. If they don't want to pay for it, why should the originator bother to make it. In relation to a cure for cancer, apart from the charities, why...

So the conclusion is..... don't question anything and take our current intellectual property laws for granted? Well you can think like that, but I'll think with my brain switched on, and not consider things in terms of black and white simplifications. I'm not condoning cracked copies of Ableton. I ...

You all went head over heels because of the last one's topic, but you've failed to read the discussion which he's referring to, which I WROTE. Please show me where in this discussion I condoned the use of a crack, and illustrate to me how the last one knows what the hell he's talking about. While y...

As the great Stephen Colbert would say "I am right, I nailed you all. Didn't I? Your apologies are accepted" But seriously, I take the points of view of the others who've responded here. There is a lot of sound reason to them. Zero censorship is best. That freedom does after all allow me t...