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sensible social policy. By which of course you mean: 1. Increasing the welfare state even though you've got no money to do so. :lol: 2. Driving the last bit of wealth out of Britain as jobs/manufacturing are shipped EVEN FASTER to China and India. :lol: 3. Formally privatized industries are again m...

Plants are sentient in the sense that they can detect light and temperature and so on, but they don't think in the sense we know it. Consciousness is something that still needs to be fully understood by scientists and philosophers. However Marx provided a giant leap forward. What Marx did was he to...

I hate to get all sciencey on this philosophical discussion, but there have been plenty of experiments (some ethical, some not so) on animals, penniless art students and the US armed forces that show that consciousness actually has something to do with the brain. There's even some you can do at hom...

andydes wrote:I think like the other members of d.ream, d.reamonn feels guilty that they helped new labour into power. Seeing that they turned out to be a big bunch of capitalists in disguise.

Just how old do you think I am?

crofter wrote:

SilverNeedle wrote:other forums ( NI / Logic ) seem to cope alright with it

Well they allow any old shite over there, this place has fucking class.

Yup.

I remember being in Britain during the height of thatcherism. It was pretty dire. The taste of right wing authoritarianism and narrow cultural hatred was in the air. Yes, the economy was moribund before she came in; she renewed it by unleashing the powers of full scale financialization; that brough...

£10 million is pocket-change compared what Tony and Gordon bled out their collectivist rectums whilst on the throne. Irrelevant. The whole ethos of the Tory party is supposed to be- work hard, make money, pay for what you want. With little or no state support. To what extent I agree with this philo...

Looking forward to trying this Mexican. I get cut off benefits in 4 weeks by the bloodsucking evil fascist Tory government, so I'll have no money to live on, so I might have to do a few muggings first. Only snag is it's hard to run away when you can barely walk. Happy days. Well you know, times are...

Obviously.

The Finn wrote:you're so right. too much speaking from experience can be downright boring.

Precisely. Like this one time, I spoke from personal experience, and it was boring.

The Finn wrote:^^ speaking from experience?

Of course not, that sort of thing is highly inappropriate.

Looking forward to trying this Mexican. I get cut off benefits in 4 weeks by the bloodsucking evil fascist Tory government, so I'll have no money to live on, so I might have to do a few muggings first. Only snag is it's hard to run away when you can barely walk. Happy days. Too much masturbation ca...

So, before d.reamonn and Marx, what did Hegel say that was cool but left a gap? Well he refused to start with a thought/matter dichotomy, and stated that consciousness was objective, explaining that people gained consciousness through taking part in social activity. Most philosophers however took t...

I think it's a bit pointless wondering if plants have a consciousness unless you are a botanist. And I'm pretty sure a botanist will say no they do not. What's interesting about consciousness to me is how it applies to humans. What is human consciousness? This is a vital question for mankind. Consc...