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Pretty sure burning man money is some sea shells and/or hemp rope.

Did you click on the loop first, or set the loop braces around it first?

I want a pony.

Ok guys, my posts succeeded in that it got Ableton's attention, and they have contacted me privately about this. I'm outta this thread until either they or I have have something new to post on the matter.

I DO have to get some music done

They sound the same then, of course.

Hepha Luemp wrote:Well - you haven't really done this, have you?

Yes, actually I did, though i realize now the thread was on the DJ forums, not here. Anyway, the same song rendered in Live 5 and Live 6 was identical, except the Live 6 song was one bit better

But for the sake of casual readers who have seen the MTM review and are looking for a PLAIN answer about Live's audio handling, please let's all keep this On Topic and just give a straight answer. I actually posted this link already, but here is whre I showed the summing engine in Lvie to be identi...

what do you all think about the whole summing outside the box thing? could it really be worthwhile? I think it's simple really. External summing sounds "different", but I wouldn't say it sounds "better" or "worse" than keeping it all in the box. One of those pick your ...

not sure if anyones brought this up but hasn't anyone considered that things like reverbs and lfo's and tons of other tools that may be in your song use complex algorhythms that are not going to produce the same results every time you render, so render your song 10 times and none of those are going...

nolus wrote:I don't know why, but I feel obliged to sspeak up in knotkranky's defense. If he says he hears a difference between render and resample why doubt him.

I don't have issues with what he hears, I have issues with illogical explanations of why these are different, and what rendering is.

I made a video demonstrating the different warp settings and the fact that repitch doesn't always cancel. It's a little boring and maybe a bit confusing but I can explain what's going on step by step if anyone cares. http://ultrashare.net/hosting/fl/a88b195057/ WOW, that's a VERY interesting video ...

headquest wrote:If you don't want to timestretch or pitchshift a clip, turn warping off...!

And I agree that Ableton should do more to make that clear.

WTF? Is no one reading this thread?

Hepha - Interesting read, but after an admittedly quick skim of an 11 year old thread ( :D ), it looks like the differences they are hearing are due to jitter, which is NOT an issue at all for what we aer talking about. Actually it might possibly explain why the Kranky guy is hearing things no one e...

I've already tested and shown that renders in Live 5 and Live 6 are bit for bit identical. Just FYI.

Thank you superflat, sums it up nicely.