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 Post subject: sharing Samples on external drive over Wlan
PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:57 pm 

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Hi,

i tried several ways to hook up an externall hard drive and share it over Wlan onto my Macbook without any luck.

- I tried directly on my modem, which works fine in Finder, almost immediately, but Ableton does not show it at all, or it takes several minutes, until i find the folders and samples
-I also tried sharing the disk with a Raspberry Pi Samba share, which also works fine in Finder, but hast the same result in Ableton, it either takes ages or does not show up at all.

I´m on a Macbook Pro on 10.11.6, using Ableton 9.7

Am i missing something, does any body have a hint what could be the problem?
Thanks, i really need to save some Space on my 10 Port Usb Port, that´s why i´m asking... :)


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 Post subject: Re: sharing Samples on external drive over Wlan
PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 12:13 pm 

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wahookah wrote:
Hi,

i tried several ways to hook up an externall hard drive and share it over Wlan onto my Macbook without any luck.

- I tried directly on my modem, which works fine in Finder, almost immediately, but Ableton does not show it at all, or it takes several minutes, until i find the folders and samples
-I also tried sharing the disk with a Raspberry Pi Samba share, which also works fine in Finder, but hast the same result in Ableton, it either takes ages or does not show up at all.


Are you sure Live has indexed this external drive?

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 Post subject: Re: sharing Samples on external drive over Wlan
PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 11:49 am 

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Hi, thank you for your answer,

there are several .asd files on the disk, but not for each sample. I used the disk before on Usb, which works fine.

Is there a way to force index the disk?

thank you


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 Post subject: Re: sharing Samples on external drive over Wlan
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 5:41 am 

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what you are trying to do just isn't workable unless you have a fast server and a fast network. i had a quick look around, and from what i can see Raspberry Pi's are appallingly slow as file servers. i guess the other device you are using as a network file server is also slow.

lots of small file accesses—which is what Live is doing when it indexes your disk, or when it is loading sample-based instruments—are the worst kind of traffic for network file sharing. combine that with a slow file server and network and you will be doing an awful lot of waiting around...

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 Post subject: Re: sharing Samples on external drive over Wlan
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 10:37 am 

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fishmonkey wrote:
what you are trying to do just isn't workable unless you have a fast server and a fast network. i had a quick look around, and from what i can see Raspberry Pi's are appallingly slow as file servers. i guess the other device you are using as a network file server is also slow.


While that sounds like it must be involved at some level the OP also states this is not the case in Finder. If it's too slow, how can it be fast enough in Finder? It's the same server, disk and network after all.

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 Post subject: Re: sharing Samples on external drive over Wlan
PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 10:53 am 

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Stromkraft wrote:
fishmonkey wrote:
what you are trying to do just isn't workable unless you have a fast server and a fast network. i had a quick look around, and from what i can see Raspberry Pi's are appallingly slow as file servers. i guess the other device you are using as a network file server is also slow.


While that sounds like it must be involved at some level the OP also states this is not the case in Finder. If it's too slow, how can it be fast enough in Finder? It's the same server, disk and network after all.


because all the Finder is doing is showing the file and folder names, which doesn't involve much data being accessed on the shared drive.

that is very different to indexing all the contents of the drive, or streaming the samples.

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