suburbanbather wrote: Like many others. Bye bye drugs, hello booze!!!!
Booze is a DRUG - just because it's legal don't kid yourself you aren't "drugging" your life away one glass at a time
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There you go Conny, just look at how many of us there are, you could basically walk into a room full of people you as good as know if we were all there. I'm sure if you just walk into the place round the corner you'll find a similar bunch of peeps just like you and all of us (ok...maybe not quite as many Live users but..). Just walk in and check it out, it's not Fight Club, you can always walk out again.conny wrote:Thing is there is an AA meeting place just around the corner, but I don't dare to go there. Equals I don't have the guts to admit my problems are of that dignity. Yet.
So this may be a try to get over it a more indirect way...
// C
From a creating songs/tracks standpoint I agree 100 percent. I often feel fairly uninspired when say, I get back from work, but if I have a toot it can focus my energy right into the music.zfigz wrote:
As for marijuana not being a motivator, well, I think it is one of the best motivators out there, for me.
Forge I have to take issue with this. I agree that everyone needs to figure out their own way to live, including whether substances are a problem and if so, how they will stop. But I tried to do it on my own, and I was not able. If not for AA I don't think I would have stopped. And I (me personally) needed to understand that I was alchoholic, that I could not solve the problem myself precisely because I was the problem. And while there are people that can do it other ways, you should not discount the AA solution, because it IS something that has worked for a lot of folks for whom nothing else worked. I don't push AA on anyone, if someone asks me how I stopped, or indicates that they think they have a problem, I let them know what worked for me. But I certainly am not a poor pathetic sheep - in fact, I am able to really enjoy life for the first time in a long time.forge wrote:my main problme with the AA is the whole "you have to admit you are hopeless" athos they have - I would prefer something more empowering - about giving yourself strength and power to realise you dont nee anything
thing with the AA is they kind of make you like a poor pathetic sheep who needs the big strong AA to fix you. My cousin went the AA route and she still reads it and has stupid things like "AA birthdays" and it's constantly something that she had to fight
whereas my partner used to smoke, read this book by ALan Carr "stop smoking the easy way" which is all about cinvincing yourself you are just kidding yourself that you really need a smoke and your addicition doesnt own you at all etc...she quit the moment she put the book down and hasnt ever questioned it once!
I see your point but the guy is looking for help and your steering him away from the most effective support group there is. The stuped birthdays that you talk about saved my life. Im not going to debate the in's and outs of the AA/NA progrm with you because I dont agree with all of it either. Personaly I think that your not helping anyone by badmouthing AA.forge wrote:my main problme with the AA is the whole "you have to admit you are hopeless" athos they have - I would prefer something more empowering - about giving yourself strength and power to realise you dont nee anything
thing with the AA is they kind of make you like a poor pathetic sheep who needs the big strong AA to fix you. My cousin went the AA route and she still reads it and has stupid things like "AA birthdays" and it's constantly something that she had to fight
whereas my partner used to smoke, read this book by ALan Carr "stop smoking the easy way" which is all about cinvincing yourself you are just kidding yourself that you really need a smoke and your addicition doesnt own you at all etc...she quit the moment she put the book down and hasnt ever questioned it once!
I am fully aware that Booze is as much a drug as much as anything else that alters the way you think and feel physically and mentally.FaX-01 wrote:suburbanbather wrote: Like many others. Bye bye drugs, hello booze!!!!
Booze is a DRUG - just because it's legal don't kid yourself you aren't "drugging" your life away one glass at a time
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yes, but see it doesn't say "we admitted we were hopeless", I think that would be rather grim and AA/NA and other similar 12 step programs would not see the success rate they are seeing if this was the deal.forge wrote:my main problme with the AA is the whole "you have to admit you are hopeless" athos they have - I would prefer something more empowering - about giving yourself strength and power to realise you dont nee anything
Yes and no. All meetings open and close with a prayer, and it is definitely a fath based program but it is not a religious program if that is what you mean. AA meetings, atleast here in Baltimore, open and close with the lords prayer but I think that is mainly out of tradition and what stuck when the founders put it together.DeadlyKungFu wrote:isn't AA a faith based program?