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Post by crumhorn » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:53 pm

Angstrom wrote: He seems intelligent, he seems moderate, he seems determined. He is unlikely to bomb the fuck out of Iran just for a mid-term popularity boost. What more can you ask for?
I agree with you there. He does seem to be both rational and humane.

And the Neo-Cons needed to be soundly defeated for the good of everyone.

It's great to see the youth and disaffected people of America taking a positive attitude towards politics. The size of the turn out was amazing. I don't know anybody (including myself) who would be prepared to queue for more than a few minutes to vote in a general election.

Hopefully some of this optimism will rub off on the disillusioned voters on this side of the Atlantic as well. Five years of a disastrous Conservative government might be just what we need to galvanise us into taking back control from the grey suited management types that we allow to currently rule our lives.

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Post by Stan_T » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:54 pm

So I wonder what the sex is like the night you're elected President. Certainly gotta be a step up from the time I fixed the washing machine.

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Post by forge » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:55 pm

Stan_T wrote:So I wonder what the sex is like the night you're elected President. Certainly gotta be a step up from the time I fixed the washing machine.
:lol: :lol:

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Post by forge » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:03 pm

crumhorn wrote:
Angstrom wrote: He seems intelligent, he seems moderate, he seems determined. He is unlikely to bomb the fuck out of Iran just for a mid-term popularity boost. What more can you ask for?
I agree with you there. He does seem to be both rational and humane.

And the Neo-Cons needed to be soundly defeated for the good of everyone.

It's great to see the youth and disaffected people of America taking a positive attitude towards politics. The size of the turn out was amazing. I don't know anybody (including myself) who would be prepared to queue for more than a few minutes to vote in a general election.

Hopefully some of this optimism will rub off on the disillusioned voters on this side of the Atlantic as well. Five years of a disastrous Conservative government might be just what we need to galvanise us into taking back control from the grey suited management types that we allow to currently rule our lives.
let's not also forget his education and background actually doing real things to help people! I mean, can you imagine a republican helping people who they didn't want something from?

The republicans actually tried to use the word "socialism" against Obama as if it was a dirty word and spoke as though it was the worst thing in the world to want to help another human being

I loved his comeback to that: "I think they were referring to when I shared my toys in kindergarten"

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Post by Mike Goodwin » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:17 pm

lola wrote:5:21 am here (holland)
Watching Jesse Jackson cry.
I saw that this morning, what a fantastic moment in history.

I am deeply happy that he won.

Here is a track I wrote in celebration of Martin Louther King. Not about this election but in celebration of great vision.

http://www.michaelgoodwin.net/10.html

Thanks for VOTING!

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Post by forge » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:22 pm

Friends,

Who among us is not at a loss for words? Tears pour out. Tears of joy. Tears of relief. A stunning, whopping landslide of hope in a time of deep despair.

In a nation that was founded on genocide and then built on the backs of slaves, it was an unexpected moment, shocking in its simplicity: Barack Obama, a good man, a black man, said he would bring change to Washington, and the majority of the country liked that idea. The racists were present throughout the campaign and in the voting booth. But they are no longer the majority, and we will see their flame of hate fizzle out in our lifetime.

There was another important "first" last night. Never before in our history has an avowed anti-war candidate been elected president during a time of war. I hope President-elect Obama remembers that as he considers expanding the war in Afghanistan. The faith we now have will be lost if he forgets the main issue on which he beat his fellow Dems in the primaries and then a great war hero in the general election: The people of America are tired of war. Sick and tired. And their voice was loud and clear yesterday.

It's been an inexcusable 44 years since a Democrat running for president has received even just 51% of the vote. That's because most Americans haven't really liked the Democrats. They see them as rarely having the guts to get the job done or stand up for the working people they say they support. Well, here's their chance. It has been handed to them, via the voting public, in the form of a man who is not a party hack, not a set-for-life Beltway bureaucrat. Will he now become one of them, or will he force them to be more like him? We pray for the latter.

But today we celebrate this triumph of decency over personal attack, of peace over war, of intelligence over a belief that Adam and Eve rode around on dinosaurs just 6,000 years ago. What will it be like to have a smart president? Science, banished for eight years, will return. Imagine supporting our country's greatest minds as they seek to cure illness, discover new forms of energy, and work to save the planet. I know, pinch me.

We may, just possibly, also see a time of refreshing openness, enlightenment and creativity. The arts and the artists will not be seen as the enemy. Perhaps art will be explored in order to discover the greater truths. When FDR was ushered in with his landslide in 1932, what followed was Frank Capra and Preston Sturgis, Woody Guthrie and John Steinbeck, Dorothea Lange and Orson Welles. All week long I have been inundated with media asking me, "gee, Mike, what will you do now that Bush is gone?" Are they kidding? What will it be like to work and create in an environment that nurtures and supports film and the arts, science and invention, and the freedom to be whatever you want to be? Watch a thousand flowers bloom! We've entered a new era, and if I could sum up our collective first thought of this new era, it is this: Anything Is Possible.

An African American has been elected President of the United States! Anything is possible! We can wrestle our economy out of the hands of the reckless rich and return it to the people. Anything is possible! Every citizen can be guaranteed health care. Anything is possible! We can stop melting the polar ice caps. Anything is possible! Those who have committed war crimes will be brought to justice. Anything is possible.

We really don't have much time. There is big work to do. But this is the week for all of us to revel in this great moment. Be humble about it. Do not treat the Republicans in your life the way they have treated you the past eight years. Show them the grace and goodness that Barack Obama exuded throughout the campaign. Though called every name in the book, he refused to lower himself to the gutter and sling the mud back. Can we follow his example? I know, it will be hard.

I want to thank everyone who gave of their time and resources to make this victory happen. It's been a long road, and huge damage has been done to this great country, not to mention to many of you who have lost your jobs, gone bankrupt from medical bills, or suffered through a loved one being shipped off to Iraq. We will now work to repair this damage, and it won't be easy.

But what a way to start! Barack Hussein Obama, the 44th President of the United States. Wow. Seriously, wow.

Yours,
Michael Moore

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Post by TomTom » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:09 pm

McCain is a really class act. I voted for him, was sorry to see him lose. But at the same time I have a strange sense of optimism...

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Post by Patch » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:11 pm

McCain is the same kind of dumb that George W. is.

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Post by smutek » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:40 pm

elxicano wrote:
Emissary wrote:congrats on having your first bi-racial president america. Its not going to change anything though. same old same old.

Bla, bla, bla... Emissary, you are the George Bush of the forums. Go get em' tiger! Nothing like a preemptive strike! "Let's all save time and complain about how bad things are before he even gets started!" WooHoo!

:D Nothing but love for you, Emissary!
I don't know, I can see possible domestic changes, but as far as foreign policy goes I didn't really see him offering much different.

So here's to hoping for visionary change not only in the way we conduct ourselves here at home, but also in the way we treat others abroad.

That said, I voted for Obama. I've been very pissed at the Democratic party for the past 5 years and had all but made up my mind to never vote a Democrat again.

I had my mind made up to vote either McKinney or to write in Brian Moore, and still hesitated slightly yesterday before casting my vote. In the end Obama won me over in the last couple of weeks.

For me there were a few determining factors that caused me to set aside the huge grievances I have with the party over foreign policy, and the grievances I have with the 2 party system in general.

One of them was, of course, Obama's charismatic personality and inspiring speeches. The promise of a tax cut and possible tax credit to help pay for school was another one, my house really could use help like that. The McCain choice of Sarah Palin and the divisive campaign they ran actually pushed me towards Obama.

The final nail in the coffin so to speak, for me, was race.

I know a lot of people are saying "race isn't an issue", but I work for some openly racist people and a conversation I heard the other day between a sales rep and one of my bosses convinced me more than ever that America needs a bi-racial president.

So, I think race is an issue, and considering the history of race relations in this country it very well should be, and we all should be proud to have elected Barak Obama.

So again, here's hoping that Obama will bring in the changes he's promised, not only here at home, but abroad as well. I'm skeptical on this point, but here's to hoping he will not be just another war president.

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Post by Ajbbklyn » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:50 pm

This is the twelfth presidential election that I have actively followed and the ninth that I have participated in.

As with the previous eight I held my nose, pulled a lever, and hoped that whichever poor bastard got in wouldn't screw things up any worse. After all, first and foremost, they are POLITICIANS.

Having said that, the real historic moment will come when Michelle LaVaughn Robinson Obama crosses the threshold of the front door of the White House to become the First Lady of the United States of America.

Cue up The Impressions' - "We're A Winner" Roulette Records, 1968
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Post by pilcrow » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:56 pm

Who would've thought I'd live long enough to see the dawning of the Age of Aquarius?

Can I have my tax cut now?

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Post by lola » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:00 pm

So again, here's hoping that Obama will bring in the changes he's promised, not only here at home, but abroad as well. I'm skeptical on this point, but here's to hoping he will not be just another war president.
At least the neoconservatist thought-machine has no indirect influence on the democrats, they are the ones who constructed those evil plans which Bush was part of and approved with .

It will take a long way to repair all damaged stuff abroad.

I am glad these 8 years of manipulating shit are over.

Obama is no messias, but he has the power to inspirate other politicians, also abroad i hope.

Now i hope Iran will not put him to the test.

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Post by TomTom » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:12 pm

pilcrow wrote:Who would've thought I'd live long enough to see the dawning of the Age of Aquarius?

Can I have my tax cut now?
We must be thinking about two different Barack Obamas.

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Post by pilcrow » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:16 pm

TomTom wrote:
pilcrow wrote:Who would've thought I'd live long enough to see the dawning of the Age of Aquarius?

Can I have my tax cut now?
We must be thinking about two different Barack Obamas.

No doubt. I'm sure there are at least two. :)

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Post by john doe by choice » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:53 pm

I'm definitely relieved...I was glued to my television for hours last night, waiting to listen to OB's speech - both McCain's and Obama's speeches were good.

$20 says Spitzer is pardoned before Bush leaves office

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