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 Post subject: Which MIDI controller? Remote61SL/CME VX6/VMK-161?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:35 am 

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I'm looking for a MIDI controller with the following qualities:

  • 61 semi-weighted/weighted keys (more natural piano feel the better!)
  • Rugged and road-ready
  • Plays well with Live and Reason


Any ideas?

So far I'm eyeing the Remote 61 SL & the CME VX6...
How do you think these keyboards measure up with regards to features and quality?
I know little about either, but the Remote 61SL is a light 14lbs compared to the CME (25lbs!)...what's the difference?

Thanks!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:06 am 

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for 61 keys it will be difficult to get a good natural piano feel. I prefer the the remote SL by a mile. Its the best midi controller out there at the mo.

The CME driver support has been a nightmare. Decent controller otherwise.

Also give the M-Audio weighted keybords a go. They are are good job and you will save youself a few quid. Might have to go for an 88 key version but.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:36 am 

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i would steer clear of CME keyboards until they work out how to write firmware that works properly -- their track record is appalling...

and yeah, usually only 88 key controllers are fully-weighted...


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:12 pm 

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Thanks a lot for the advice.

I don't need the full-weighting of an 88, but a little more than none-at-all would be nice. I'm playing a Juno-G, which is great feature-wise, but has very cheap-feeling keys that have little expression (no weighting or aftertouch).

It's odd what I've heard about the CMEs. One friend had enthusiastically recommended I check them out, but most forums and reviews say they're terrible. From the photo, they look well-built and ahead-of-the-curve feature-wise.

I've had some bad experience with M-Audio products. My first controller was the Radium-61 and it was very poorly built. I also had some in-ears of theirs that fell apart.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:34 pm 

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Also, does anyone know anything about the StudioLogic Fatar VMK-161 Plus 61-Note Master Controller?

FEATURES
  • 61 full size keys with Fatar GRAND TOUCH
  • Velocity and Aftertouch-sensitive
  • LCD Display with Data Entry Dial
  • Pitch Bend and Modulation Joystick
  • 30 User-Programmable presets, Including 12 factory presets
  • 25 Programmable Knobs, Sliders and Buttons
  • 5 button Sequencer Transport control
  • 3 Programmable Pedal inputs
  • 2 midi outputs
  • Built in USB with Bus power
  • Dimensions: 37.4 ” x 13.75” x 5.5”
  • Weight: 33 lb
  • Includes: Power Adapter
  • Instruction Manual


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:35 pm 

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pajhonka wrote:
It's odd what I've heard about the CMEs. One friend had enthusiastically recommended I check them out, but most forums and reviews say they're terrible. From the photo, they look well-built and ahead-of-the-curve feature-wise.


they are pretty well built overall... however you will find that many of the supposed features (and many basic ones) don't work as advertised, and their tech support and firmware are a complete joke... apparently their whole customer support team is only 2 people (in China), and they sell a lot of units...

i personally would never buy a VX, i do however have a UF80... i'm still waiting -- it's been almost a year now -- for CME to finally finish and release a decent firmware for it... actually i would not recommend anyone buy a UF80 either, since (amongst other bugs) there is a long-standing problem with very different velocity responses between black and white keys...

so hardware-wise they are ok, but firmware-wise they suck, bigtime!


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