Cher 'Do you belive'vocal effect

DJ VAKIS · Post by **DJ VAKIS** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:56 am

What effect is this?Is it vocoder?

UKRuss · Post by **UKRuss** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:07 am

usually done with Auto tune facilities. can be done with Antares or Melodyne plug in.

kaffein · Post by **kaffein** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:16 am

http://chersnewalbum.ytmnd.com/

Michael Hatsis · Post by **Michael Hatsis** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:03 pm

Its kinda crazy how much this effect is used lately. Go Antares! One thing i think is pretty cool is that the farther you sing out of tune, the more the effect kicks in...

leedsquietman · Post by **leedsquietman** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:16 pm

yes, Antares or Melodyne are the best way to do this.

Although, WHY would you want to, it's the most annoying effect in the world and that Cher record is like scratching nails down a chalkboard for most people with any kind of hearing - or taste.

glitchrock-buddha · Post by **glitchrock-buddha** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:20 pm

South Park did the best rendition of that Cher song years ago. That was auto tune to the max!

leedsquietman · Post by **leedsquietman** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:46 pm

and Cartman's rendition of Seal's 'A Kiss From A Rose' is right up there with it too

crumhorn · Post by **crumhorn** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:23 pm

mike@TrackTeam Audio wrote:...Go Antares!...

preferably as far away as possible.

4ace · Post by **4ace** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:33 pm

The amount of use this effect is getting in hip hop circles is unreal.

And if that's true about the farther out of tune your voice is the more drastic the effect....well that would fit with these hip hop guys who attempt to non-rap.
It's totally gay

rozling · Post by **rozling** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:44 pm

Am I wrong in thinking the original was done with a Boss pedal or somesuch? Can't find it (although I really just checked Sound on Sound and got lost in a Manics article)

rozling · Post by **rozling** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:46 pm

This is execellent, check it out!!!

STOP PRESS! Historical Footnote

Cher's 'Believe' (Dec 1998) was the first commercial recording to feature the audible side-effects of Antares Auto-tune software used as a deliberate creative effect. The (now) highly recognisable tonal mangling occurs when the pitch correction speed is set too fast for the audio that it is processing and it became one of the most over-used production effects of the following years.

In February 1999, when this Sound On Sound article was published, the producers of this recording were apparently so keen to maintain their 'trade secret' process that they were willing to attribute the effect to the (then) recently-released Digitech Talker vocoder pedal. As most people are now all-too familiar with the 'Cher effect', as it became known, we have maintained the article in its original form as an interesting historical footnote.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb99/a ... cks661.htm

jeffplaysmoog · Post by **jeffplaysmoog** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:14 pm

Yeah, the effect is an interesting one when use properly... I like when Daft Punk uses it... but maybe that is because I really like Daft Punk. I hate the new Kanye West album, but mostly because the songs are ass and not because the effect is annoying.

aeon · Post by **aeon** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:39 pm

cheeky fuckers.

i wonder whether the blatantly massively huge ego-stroking plug for SoS was the price of keeping that particularly trick 'secret'?

SMonk · Post by **SMonk** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:41 pm

When the autotune is used in the crude, artless simply-singing-badly-into-it way it's used in hip hop the last couple of years (and in crappy european dance the last 10 years), it i indeed rather horrible. However, when used with some finesse, it's the best effect ever. http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxxnr3j60 ... re=related

beats me · Post by **beats me** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:47 pm

This video illustrates brilliantly what you are talking and complaining about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpu6C70W ... re=related

There are tons of other videos showing how silly it is but I think that was the first.