dumb, dramatical, off topic... how high were you when you wrote this gem? it's just an ad hominem attack as you like to whine about.Machinesworking wrote:All this is so hilariously hypocritical coming from someone with an elf flashing his ass as a sig! Fuck I don't have anything to say, your lack of cohesive ethics does it for me!Tone Deft wrote:selfish whiny generation Y jackasses.
if you paid for youtube and had a freedom of speech clause that's one thing, you don't, it's free and there's just some buzzword slogan that "it's all about you." it's their business, their income, food on their plates.
please do boycott them for as long as you want, I appreciate the bandwidth and lack of metube videos.
a boycott is the right action, I just don't agree with the reasons. maybe you should take a hint and clean up your language. actually it makes sense to raise the youtube censorship to the level of broadcast TV and radio, those are the standards our cultures have settled on for free media.
Tone Deft wrote:selfish whiny generation Y jackasses.
if you paid for youtube and had a freedom of speech clause that's one thing, you don't, it's free and there's just some buzzword slogan that "it's all about you." it's their business, their income, food on their plates.
please do boycott them for as long as you want, I appreciate the bandwidth and lack of metube videos.
a boycott is the right action, I just don't agree with the reasons. maybe you should take a hint and clean up your language. actually it makes sense to raise the youtube censorship to the level of broadcast TV and radio, those are the standards our cultures have settled on for free media.
^Tone Deft wrote: maybe you should take a hint and clean up your language. actually it makes sense to raise the youtube censorship to the level of broadcast TV and radio, those are the standards our cultures have settled on for free media.
I'll try to keep this short and avoid your classic quote within quote that gradually expands to biblical proportions.dipshit, I am not going against the wishes of the Abes, I don't argue with the mods or whine about moderation. I don't protest against them, I do ask people to respect the Abes wishes. are you a moderator? maybe you should ask dom to judge me before you touch the keyboard, or just mind your own business to begin with.Machinesworking wrote:^Tone Deft wrote: maybe you should take a hint and clean up your language. actually it makes sense to raise the youtube censorship to the level of broadcast TV and radio, those are the standards our cultures have settled on for free media.
This is the gist, if you believe this, why would you have an ass elf sig? It's hypocritical to make fun of kids whining about censorship on the interwebs, when you yourself take advantage of any freedom you get from a privately owned site?
bile in my reply? you pussy, that was nothing. how about the ad hominem attack? that's bullshit, NOBODY appreciates that kind of behavior, you should be ashamed, admit it was wrong and just move on FFS.I mean look at the bile in your reply to me? would any regular company forum accept that sort of thing? Mostly you just hate the y kids who post youtube vids, which is not anywhere near the point. Neither was it my point to just ad homonym attack you, rather to point out that your post was hypocritical in light of the facts.
golf clap for finally posting on topic.AFA opinions on the subject, personally I think a boycott makes sense, people accept far too much censorship as it is. I find it hilarious how people tend to side with the large corporate entity when they don't like or use the tool that entity is providing. I don't have an opinion on youtube bloggers, never got into blogging at all.
blah blah blah, you write as if you know me, like you can judge my character, that's creepy. I honestly don't care what you think of me, it's been years of this bullshit, we can drive each other nuts, I am not seeking your approval, I only ask that we both chill out.I also find it funny you accusing me of being like the metubers etc. as if I should automatically find that offensive. Sure, I like forums and sites that have few rules, and I will complain if I see new levels of moderation coming etc. why wouldn't you if you like it like it is?? You're so busy being an ex-twenty something who now hates on youth culture of any kind that you haven't noticed that you're now doing the whole "gosh darn snot nosed kids!" routine, on a music forum no less.
So you're saying if the Abes decided to place the forum in heavy moderation mode, you would quickly and decisively change your behavior for the new rules? without any complaining? I actually am trying to understand your logic here?Tone Deft wrote:dipshit, I am not going against the wishes of the Abes, I don't argue with the mods or whine about moderation. I don't protest against them, I do ask people to respect the Abes wishes. are you a moderator? maybe you should ask dom to judge me before you touch the keyboard, or just mind your own business to begin with.Machinesworking wrote:^Tone Deft wrote: maybe you should take a hint and clean up your language. actually it makes sense to raise the youtube censorship to the level of broadcast TV and radio, those are the standards our cultures have settled on for free media.
This is the gist, if you believe this, why would you have an ass elf sig? It's hypocritical to make fun of kids whining about censorship on the interwebs, when you yourself take advantage of any freedom you get from a privately owned site?
it's not an elf, retard, it's a gnome!!! why is it there? so you can kiss it. I did not choose something that I knew was out of bounds. actually you're trying to censor me, poor form.
absolutely. when Tumor was at his end I wrote stuff about his mom and sister (that sweet sweet piece of ass), I was asked to edit it out, I did so without hesitation, so much you didn't even notice. again, take your cues from dom if you want to judge me, or mind your own business.Machinesworking wrote:So you're saying if the Abes decided to place the forum in heavy moderation mode, you would quickly and decisively change your behavior for the new rules? without any complaining? I actually am trying to understand your logic here?Tone Deft wrote:dipshit, I am not going against the wishes of the Abes, I don't argue with the mods or whine about moderation. I don't protest against them, I do ask people to respect the Abes wishes. are you a moderator? maybe you should ask dom to judge me before you touch the keyboard, or just mind your own business to begin with.Machinesworking wrote: ^
This is the gist, if you believe this, why would you have an ass elf sig? It's hypocritical to make fun of kids whining about censorship on the interwebs, when you yourself take advantage of any freedom you get from a privately owned site?
it's not an elf, retard, it's a gnome!!! why is it there? so you can kiss it. I did not choose something that I knew was out of bounds. actually you're trying to censor me, poor form.
No dramajack here. I just have a completely different take on ethics and what I find hypocritical than you do. That is, in fact, on topic!Tone Deft wrote:absolutely. when Tumor was at his end I wrote stuff about his mom and sister (that sweet sweet piece of ass), I was asked to edit it out, I did so without hesitation, so much you didn't even notice. again, take your cues from dom if you want to judge me, or mind your own business.Machinesworking wrote:So you're saying if the Abes decided to place the forum in heavy moderation mode, you would quickly and decisively change your behavior for the new rules? without any complaining? I actually am trying to understand your logic here?Tone Deft wrote: dipshit, I am not going against the wishes of the Abes, I don't argue with the mods or whine about moderation. I don't protest against them, I do ask people to respect the Abes wishes. are you a moderator? maybe you should ask dom to judge me before you touch the keyboard, or just mind your own business to begin with.
it's not an elf, retard, it's a gnome!!! why is it there? so you can kiss it. I did not choose something that I knew was out of bounds. actually you're trying to censor me, poor form.
people who want more moderation generally go to aldj, there have been times this place was too much so I went there, but I find it way too uptight and boring, so I get my info here.
it's Ableton's server and the mods are nice people whom I respect. what's the big surprise here?
still, this is about you attacking me with little to no thought going into the subject matter. it's a dramajack, a fascinating discussion.
I can has your validation now? you know there are people reading this wondering why we both don't just stfu, this is exactly the kind of crap people don't like.
Right, the main difference is youtube is basically supported and popular because of the bloggers and other postings, and in that sense the consumer becomes the contributer as well. So a protest is IMO a logical and ethically secure position. Their free site is supported and popular because they get free content from the end user. I'm not judging the quality of the content, it's not for me, but I certainly don't judge the right the users have to try to affect the standards of youtube, and I certainly don't want the interwebs to be infected with the standards of broadcast media in general.Tone Deft wrote:the issue is users demanding policy on a free site and rallying against the owners. the metubers are doing that, I do not.
I'm not judging the standards youtube is setting forth, it's their FREE site they can do what they want, I don't care. if Ableton changes their standards, that's also fine by me, I don't want it but it's their site.
That's funny, you've been here about 10 minutes.NativeBreaks wrote:Tone Deft wrote:selfish whiny generation Y jackasses.
if you paid for youtube and had a freedom of speech clause that's one thing, you don't, it's free and there's just some buzzword slogan that "it's all about you." it's their business, their income, food on their plates.
please do boycott them for as long as you want, I appreciate the bandwidth and lack of metube videos.
a boycott is the right action, I just don't agree with the reasons. maybe you should take a hint and clean up your language. actually it makes sense to raise the youtube censorship to the level of broadcast TV and radio, those are the standards our cultures have settled on for free media.
GET A LIFE, AND GET THE HELL OFF MY FORUM. LOSER.
