10 years ago...

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10 years ago...

Post by 8O » Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:31 am

I was just sorting out my bookshelf today and found the "Fast Guide to Cubase VST" from 1998.
Typical PC requirements:
Intel Pentium II processor (233MHz or more)
Of all the peripheral equipment surrounding Cubase VST a DAT machine is among the most useful.
I guess looking back, things will change even faster in the future.

Anyway, if anyone wants the book, e.g. as a monitor speaker stand or something, just let me know. :)

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Post by weeddigger » Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:00 am


Keep it for when there are no trees, you can sell it for loads then!
If you can imagine it, it can happen...

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Post by rbmonosylabik » Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:07 am

A single track I'm working on right now would have capped that HD 8O

MBP 2.3 GHz i5, Live 9.6.1, Push, MPD32, Rane SL2

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Post by djsynchro » Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:41 am

My first sequencer was Cubase on the Atari ST, 1MB of RAM no audio of course.

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Post by GeoSuPhat » Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:56 am

Dr. T's - Amiga 512kb ram - 1989

Manuals still on a shelf in the closet.
Amigas in the attic. Right next to the c64 and that little midi interface that looks like an atari 2600 game cartridge.

Ok Theres also a picture of me next to it when I was in the Army (Air Defense).
I am holding a big rock and getting ready to knock another Pterodactyl outta the sky....man those were the days.
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Post by leedsquietman » Mon Dec 22, 2008 2:57 am

I had Steinberg Pro 12 on the Commodore 64. then Pro 24 on the Atari 1040FM. Then gave up until getting into VST 3.5

I still have some love for Cubase but Live is my main tool these days. Ableton certainly care a lot more for their customers than Steiny, that company has had thousands of my dollars, yet have sent me nasty PMs on my 'negative attitude'. and deleted threads and threatened to ban me from their forums more than once, for minor, trivial stuff, a lot less than the likes of Timur got away with posting on this forum for 1,000 posts or whatever.
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Post by hambone1 » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:12 am

But no matter how fast technology changes, how much cheaper and easier software and hardware make it, top songwriting will remain the exclusive domain of the talented. All the technology in the world can't change that.

IMO, today's technology just makes it harder to find the great music that's hidden in the billions of useless throwaway tracks.

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Post by roach808 » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:17 am

rbmonosylabik wrote:A single track I'm working on right now would have capped that HD 8O
Umm, I think any track involving decently recorded audio would cap that mofo now a days....... :twisted:
roach- the other white meat
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Post by Mesmer » Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:32 am

... on a cold dark night ...
Hidden Driveways wrote:This doesn't answer your question at all, but I said it anyway simply for the joy of making a post.

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Post by Johnisfaster » Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:56 am

and here I am feeling old school for writing my first track in fruityloops 1.0

I found a copy of a couple tracks I made back then, somehow they seemed so much better than a lot of stuff I've done since. which is really disappointing as it obviously says the technology has gotten far more advanced and I've been somewhat dumbed down :)
It was as if someone shook up a 6 foot can of blood soda and suddenly popped the top.

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Post by aizo » Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:51 am

i can understand that. I used to make music with only reason. the snth quality was ass but i used to make unique music. it was harder to make it interesting becuase the quality wasn't as good. now everybody throws beat repeat on something and it's insta-cool. that's why I like making music sometimes at lunch or in bed with just my laptop, or hell even my electribe. less is more i guess.

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Post by fatrabbit » Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:56 pm

It's interesting what the OP said about things changing more quickly in the future. It's easy to fall into an update cycle which can impact your music output. Ties in with that thread about Burial using SoundForge or whatever it was.

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Post by Hidden Driveways » Mon Dec 22, 2008 2:12 pm

Kind of why I'm glad there hasn't been a Live 8 release yet. Every year just when I get cozy with a version of Live, a new one comes out, then I spend a bunch of time learning the new features. It's worth it, because going from Live 6 to Live 7 was especially nice, but yeah, the point is to make music, not to learn new tricks.

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Post by Warminstrel » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:23 pm

First recording studio set-up circa 1974/74, aged about 8 or 9 i think, check out the Bang & Olufson 4 track, kindly donated by an uncle:


No drums back then, just flicked the microphone for beats.
B&O tape machine (with matching wooden amp and speaker) had fantiastic 'sound on sound' over dub feature.

Soon added brand new PSR Yamaha keyboard with an incredilbe drum machine with 6 or more patterns and an incredible 9 voices!

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Post by 8O » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:26 am

Warminstrel wrote:No drums back then, just flicked the microphone for beats.
:D :D

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