Thoughts on Max for Live
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step sequencers..
midi LFO's..
NRPN.
Assignable CC's..
OSC, for those that need it...
I'm assuming it is going to be MAX with out the MSP/Jitter...
I would also guess it will be a new product attached to live.
So a live expanded if ya know what i mean. I would not be at all surprised if we see a Live 7.? with the max part as a paid for add on in the same way as sampler/operator.
Personally that would work out just peachy for me.
midi LFO's..
NRPN.
Assignable CC's..
OSC, for those that need it...
I'm assuming it is going to be MAX with out the MSP/Jitter...
I would also guess it will be a new product attached to live.
So a live expanded if ya know what i mean. I would not be at all surprised if we see a Live 7.? with the max part as a paid for add on in the same way as sampler/operator.
Personally that would work out just peachy for me.
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Re: Thoughts on Max for Live
Gonna have to confess that I'll need to read up a bit more on Max, but it looked like something I (as a software engineer) would be interested in. A modified version for Live is probably going to be enough to get me interested.
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Ableton has the UI thing nailed down cold. Max is very powerful, but fucking UGLY. yeah, crucify me. i know it's cool and i've see people do amazing things with it but it looks gross and is not fun to use, definitely not musical feeling at all. if these two teams of talent can take that power and make it musical, easy on the eyes and intuitive enough to use then i think it can open a whole lot of doors. looking forward to finding out.
not terrifying. just not musical. takes a lot of patching before you have a musically useful device laid out before you. removes you from the right brain state where musical ideas and creativity come from and puts you too far to the left where you're suddenly "working at a computer" for hours on end. if they can make it fast and easy (easy enough, anyway) to create interesting things without leaving Live and music-making mindset then it's a winner.aeon wrote:y'all work with computers... what looks so terrifying about Max?
skinned percussion resonance modes are scary. analogue filter emulations in DSP are scary.
exactly , it should be well integrated into the Live gui - looks like all the other Live instr. , the original Max gui is terrible , really (from a musicians point of view) ...tjwett wrote:Ableton has the UI thing nailed down cold. Max is very powerful, but fucking UGLY. yeah, crucify me. i know it's cool and i've see people do amazing things with it but it looks gross and is not fun to use, definitely not musical feeling at all. if these two teams of talent can take that power and make it musical, easy on the eyes and intuitive enough to use then i think it can open a whole lot of doors. looking forward to finding out.
Does this mean we'll be able to drop an instance of operator, sampler, saturator or whatever into a Max patch?
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I really don't feel that way - I can understand why people might object to v.4.* which is really old, but v5 makes fantastic little GUIs.emma wrote:the original Max gui is terrible , really (from a musicians point of view) ...
It takes two to three minutes to build a viable step sequencer in Max.not terrifying. just not musical. takes a lot of patching before you have a musically useful device laid out before you.
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