Thoughts on Max for Live

crumhorn · Post by **crumhorn** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:31 am

tjwett wrote:
crumhorn wrote:Does this mean we'll be able to drop an instance of operator, sampler, saturator or whatever into a Max patch?
i think the other way around actually. i'm guessing Max-ish tools for creating native Ableton devices.

Both ways round would be nice (as the actress said to the bishop)

tjwett · Post by **tjwett** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:32 am

Machinate wrote: It takes two to three minutes to build a viable step sequencer in Max.

i guess i think more of things i can actually here; synths, effects etc. i have plenty of sequencer already. i'm not hating on Max, like i said i know it's powerful and can do wild stuff. i think it would get a lot of use from Live users if it actually looked and acted in a familiar way. this might be just that.

emma · Post by **emma** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:33 am

tjwett wrote:
crumhorn wrote:Does this mean we'll be able to drop an instance of operator, sampler, saturator or whatever into a Max patch?
i think the other way around actually. i'm guessing Max-ish tools for creating native Ableton devices.

... aaah , maybe a kind of script editor for Live !? - waaaay to complicated for my taste ...

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:34 am

tjwett wrote:
Machinate wrote: It takes two to three minutes to build a viable step sequencer in Max.
i guess i think more of things i can actually here; synths, effects etc.

Ah, that would be the "MSP" part

tjwett · Post by **tjwett** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:35 am

crumhorn wrote:
tjwett wrote:
crumhorn wrote:Does this mean we'll be able to drop an instance of operator, sampler, saturator or whatever into a Max patch?
i think the other way around actually. i'm guessing Max-ish tools for creating native Ableton devices.
Both ways round would be nice (as the actress said to the bishop)

yeah it would. but i'm just going off the name we've heard so far - oop, this just in. AKAI publishes another interview, this time with Mr. Robert Henke, where he mentions "Live for Max". godammit, another surprise ruined.

adventurepants_ · Post by **adventurepants_** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:36 am

does Max have consistent midi timing?

this can only be good. the supergeeks will make lots of neat stuff for mortals like me to play with.

crumhorn · Post by **crumhorn** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:37 am

Machinate wrote:
emma wrote:the original Max gui is terrible , really (from a musicians point of view) ...
I really don't feel that way - I can understand why people might object to v.4.* which is really old, but v5 makes fantastic little GUIs.

not terrifying. just not musical. takes a lot of patching before you have a musically useful device laid out before you.
It takes two to three minutes to build a viable step sequencer in Max.

Machinate, you find it easy because that is the way your mind works, but it's safe to say that some people will never get their head around it.

I'm not saying these people are thick, they might be musical geniuses, just not good at grasping software technology.

tjwett · Post by **tjwett** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:37 am

Machinate wrote:
tjwett wrote:
Machinate wrote: It takes two to three minutes to build a viable step sequencer in Max.
i guess i think more of things i can actually here; synths, effects etc.
Ah, that would be the "MSP" part

yeah shit, you're right. so this could be a MIDI-only affair? i just suddenly got real bored.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:38 am

nah, I think it'll be the full package.

chrysalis33rpm · Post by **chrysalis33rpm** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:43 am

I am biting my fingernails waiting for this one...and a bit crushed because it sounds like I'm gonna have to buy another product. Well, I guess I knew the risks when I bought my Max license. Grrrrrr.

Max 5 is graphically brilliant, BTW.

If there is no OSC my head is gonna burst.

timothyallan · Post by **timothyallan** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:45 am

I bet there will be OSC... how else would that new Akai surface get the clip status colors from Live (without using python)

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:47 am

timothyallan wrote:I bet there will be OSC... how else would that new Akai surface get the clip status colors from Live (without using python)

MIDI Velocity messages coming out of every track in session view?

crumhorn · Post by **crumhorn** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:47 am

timothyallan wrote:I bet there will be OSC... how else would that new Akai surface get the clip status colors from Live (without using python)

System exclusive??? (nah, just kidding)

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:48 am

timothyallan wrote:I bet there will be OSC... how else would that new Akai surface get the clip status colors from Live (without using python)

I'm guessing it could be an elaborate Control Surface setup or similar? It would be WILD if the APC40 had an ethernet port!

I'm holding out for OSC though.

mdk · Post by **mdk** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:54 am

it better be OSC. there'll be a riot if its just MIDI.

i hope there is some decent crossgrade offer for people who own both live and max.