Sysex in live 8?

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Sysex in live 8?

Post by orgul » Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:21 am

will live 8 finaly support sysex strings and nrp commands? Max does so I think it should be implemented in live 8. Can someone please confirme...!

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Post by orgul » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:33 am

bump..

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Post by Johnisfaster » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:49 am

max for live will work with sysex, max for live will do anything max can do
It was as if someone shook up a 6 foot can of blood soda and suddenly popped the top.

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Post by julienb » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:01 am

Johnisfaster wrote:max for live will work with sysex, max for live will do anything max can do
are you sure ?
I'm looking for infos about that too... especially about the price !

if you're right, max for live cost = max/msp cost (i intentionnaly omit jitter, cause I guess this kind of object won't be included)
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Post by orgul » Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:35 am

the point is this. The live 7 engine did not support sysex messages, it would not even let them through. So if max for live features sysex commands like max 5 does the engine of live 8 must have been ganged? Did it? that's all I want to know!

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Post by Johnisfaster » Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:42 am

orgul wrote:the point is this. The live 7 engine did not support sysex messages, it would not even let them through. So if max for live features sysex commands like max 5 does the engine of live 8 must have been ganged? Did it? that's all I want to know!
don't assume things about how they are gonna work together. max for live may be using the max engine while using a 'window' into live, so if the max engine is running separately it has the ability to output sysex without lives approval... all I can say is a little bird told me max for live will be able to do anything that max can do.
It was as if someone shook up a 6 foot can of blood soda and suddenly popped the top.

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Post by radib » Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:52 am

birds often forget the "ps. with a very few restrictions". we´ll see.
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Post by 3dot... » Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:21 am

from what I understand in the c74 site,,,
they're saying MFL gets it's Midi and audio i/o ports from live...
I too am hoping for sysex...
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Post by orgul » Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:47 am

any official abee comments on this yet... or some that is betatestig...?

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Post by disco judas » Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:46 am

No official comment, but Live will be able to handle sysex via maxforlive.

And that is so cool :)

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Post by ultra » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:57 pm

fortunately live 7 can at least output sysex. i'm hoping live 8 will accept sysex natively.

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Post by 3dot... » Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:14 pm

ultra wrote:fortunately live 7 can at least output sysex.
how?
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Post by disco judas » Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:33 pm

ultra wrote:fortunately live 7 can at least output sysex. i'm hoping live 8 will accept sysex natively.

For all practical reasons, maxforlive will be natively. Its build into the program.
So its safe to say Live8 can handle sysex.


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Post by ultra » Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:49 pm

live 7 outputs sysex via liveapi.

for any practical reason, mfl isn't native. for general control of live, i'll be sticking with liveapi. mfl has exciting features, but i don't think it should be necessary to get good communication with live.

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Post by Machinesworking » Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:15 am

ultra wrote:live 7 outputs sysex via liveapi.

for any practical reason, mfl isn't native. for general control of live, i'll be sticking with liveapi. mfl has exciting features, but i don't think it should be necessary to get good communication with live.
That's actually good news, so with that in mind Max for Live should be able to translate sysex for Live. We won't know until it's released though.

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