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Faith No More - The Real Thing

I was also one of those kids who was watching MTV when it turned from static into a channel...the good old days.

whole lotta guitarists here

how many people have switched to electronic music being frustrated of realization that after satriani and vai there's nothing left to do on a guitar?

then there are of course tom morello and, more recently, yoav.

for me, the guitar spell has been broken by bjork, as once she said in interview "guitar is boring" while i was totally all over her homogenic and vespertine albums, and realized that in all of that weirdness and beauty there was not a single guitar note

Machinesworking wrote:First music that inspired me to write was this,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iky9KglNFs8
and yeah band mates over the years have been all "Devo? WTF? Mayan!?"

fantastic. i saw devo twice around 1980-81, those lightbox things burned into your retina so hard you could still see them two days later

I disagree that there is nothing left to do on guitar - maybe shredding is at a dead end (and not before time) but with guitars and emerging technology, plus all the weird and wacky stuff you can do to guitar tracks in Live with FX, warping, tweaking, messing with guitar loops in Sampler and soon to be new device Looper, much improved MIDI guitar interfaces and software and such I don't think the guitar is a dead instrument at all.

In fact, I wish more people using Live would do some innovative guitar stuff to help lift the stereotype that it is only for nerds into tarnce and techno that is pervasive. Nothing against nerds into techno and only mild discrimination against tarnce heads, but it would be a nice change to have Live get some recognition beyond those circles.

4.33 wrote:whole lotta guitarists here

how many people have switched to electronic music being frustrated of realization that after satriani and vai there's nothing left to do on a guitar?

then there are of course tom morello and, more recently, yoav.

for me, the guitar spell has been broken by bjork, as once she said in interview "guitar is boring" while i was totally all over her homogenic and vespertine albums, and realized that in all of that weirdness and beauty there was not a single guitar note

Vai and Satriani are the end point of a particular very narrow style of guitar. There are people doing amazing things on guitar outside of rock. Its funny but I grew up with those 2 as heroes but these days Id rather hear Neil Young do a 12 minute solo, or Sonic Youth do 15 minutes of noise than listen to 1 minute of Satch.

Satch and Vai are role models for me to not bother to learn to shred.

they're not the end all be all of guitar, the guitar has been around for hundreds of years, giving them that title is short sighted but many many many people would agree (in between sessions of Dungeons and Dragons and comic book reading.)



anyway, purchases...

Fat Boy Slim - You've Come A Long Way (when I heard Gangster Tripping I HAD TO get into electronic music. embarrassing now, I know.

Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream, I learned to play by learning that album, a lot of my playing is ripping them off.

DJ Shadow - Entroducing - taught me how amazing drums can be.

New Order - all the early stuff - showed me that synths and guitars can coexist.

Amon Tobin - Supermodified - mind blowing samples.

Steve Hillage and Junior Brown for showing me that barking mad inspired insanity can actually pay off, anything goes man... n - e - thing

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Oh, I did buy a ticket to see a little band that Mike Patton had just joined called Faith No More.
Saw them in a smallish pub gig with another 300 or so lucky punters in Melbourne around 1989/90ish.

That was a life changing moment.

I got lost after the show and was found in a sex shop buying up on, .......stuff.

Crazy night

Meat Is Murder by The Smiths changed everything

adventurepants_ wrote: Vai and Satriani are the end point of a particular very narrow style of guitar. There are people doing amazing things on guitar outside of rock. Its funny but I grew up with those 2 as heroes but these days Id rather hear Neil Young do a 12 minute solo, or Sonic Youth do 15 minutes of noise than listen to 1 minute of Satch.

agreed, but this is also was a very important style of guitar, where it is centerstage, the storyteller.

for me, as the guitar stepped back to background i had to think of new (or old) ways of storytelling.

4.33 wrote:

adventurepants_ wrote: Vai and Satriani are the end point of a particular very narrow style of guitar. There are people doing amazing things on guitar outside of rock. Its funny but I grew up with those 2 as heroes but these days Id rather hear Neil Young do a 12 minute solo, or Sonic Youth do 15 minutes of noise than listen to 1 minute of Satch.

agreed, but this is also was a very important style of guitar, where it is centerstage, the storyteller.

for me, as the guitar stepped back to background i had to think of new (or old) ways of storytelling.

I wouldn't classify Vai or Satriani as "important" in the grand scheme of guitar players. Hendrix, Van Halen, maybe Jimmy Page, Pete Townshend......I liked Steve Vai better when he played in Zappa's band a la "Stevie's Spanking". I could never really take either of those guys too seriously....

rbro wrote:

4.33 wrote:

adventurepants_ wrote: Vai and Satriani are the end point of a particular very narrow style of guitar. There are people doing amazing things on guitar outside of rock. Its funny but I grew up with those 2 as heroes but these days Id rather hear Neil Young do a 12 minute solo, or Sonic Youth do 15 minutes of noise than listen to 1 minute of Satch.

agreed, but this is also was a very important style of guitar, where it is centerstage, the storyteller.

for me, as the guitar stepped back to background i had to think of new (or old) ways of storytelling.

I wouldn't classify Vai or Satriani as "important" in the grand scheme of guitar players. Hendrix, Van Halen, maybe Jimmy Page, Pete Townshend......I liked Steve Vai better when he played in Zappa's band a la "Stevie's Spanking". I could never really take either of those guys too seriously....

you're kinda missing the point)

edit: but i really like your stuff

"Dead Man" Soundtrack by Neil Young
Sigur Ros ()

Both made me dive into making music again, buying and learning an accoustic guitar and lately a bass and combine this "analog" stuff with digital gear...

Not there yet though

Cheers,

Thomas Helzle
http://www.screendream.de