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binaural beats

Post by buzby » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:18 am

is anyone making binaural beats ?
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Post by Johnisfaster » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:39 am

isn't that just the ambient version of ambient?
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Post by pepezabala » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:30 am

you mean drumsounds recorded with binaural microphones?

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Post by Moody » Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:35 pm

Is this the lead in or the whole of your question? :P
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Post by t1mp » Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:56 pm

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Post by buzby » Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:06 pm

sorry - was nt meant to leave the question so open ended - i d been up all night and posted it at 8am before going to bed and somehow managed to leave out the part

".. if so - what are you using "

i dont know much about binaural beats but for a long time i ve been into cymatics - look up the “webs of maya” on youtube and the ability of frequency to alter consciousness -

just to make it clear im not into the new age approach of all this stuff before anyone thinks im away with the fairies

as far as i understand, binaural beats is where you layer 2 frequencies that are slightly different to each other - say one at 440hz and the other 430hz and the effect is a pulsing drum like sound

lots of people are into this for stimulating various activity in the brain and various effects - i guess meditation is the obvious one

im more interested as to whether it is possible to produce frequency which can trigger dmt release from the pineal gland !!

see .. im not away with the fairies at all ;)
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Post by buzby » Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:10 pm

pepezabala wrote:you mean drumsounds recorded with binaural microphones?
are they microphones which are inside of the ears of a moulded head made out of plastic or something -

i ve seen one of those in ireland and the recordings from them are mental
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Post by Nilus » Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:45 pm

I like where this is going.....

Looks like we are grasping at several ideas in here that could be interesting.

Binaural Beats, Cymatics and Magick

Binaural Beats - Do you own Operator? (or any other synth that will allow you dial in a fixed frequency) What type of waves are you curious about working with? (Beta, Theta, etc...)

Cymatics - Can you share some of your studies on cymatics? Have you done any experiments with this yourself?

Magick - Third Eye - Pineal Gland - DMT - This could be complex, hopefully we can share resources and get as close as possible to a formula.


We might as well throw in Synethesia... which is possibly something that occurs due to combining some of these techniques. :D

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Post by buzby » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:01 pm

im going to get operator when i upgrade from live 7 to 8 suite ... mmm

i have a couple of plug in synths and also own reason so i can rewire to abe ...

i was trying last night to create a binaural beat by using a part of bird song and zooming in part of the waveform in sampler and drawing a long ass midi note to create a constant tone - i then duplicated sampler and tried dropping the pitch down a little on one

did nt really get the affect that i wanted but might read up more tonight

also i have a book on dmt by Rick Straussman (dmt - the spirt molecule)and might contact him about the possibility of doing this - (stimulating the pineal with sound) .. also to produce serotonin

ive done dmt in a very respectful environment and synesthesia is a very prominent experience during this
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Post by Machinate » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:09 pm

Analog synths ftw - oscillators can often easily go into super-sonic territory, then line up two and you're off.

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Post by buzby » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:24 pm

hey andreas

wass up man ?

can you be little more specific with an example of settings etc ...

im very inexperienced with this

are you still at artlab ? -it d be nice to pop down and see you one day - im not working yet so have lots of time
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Post by jer_mcclain » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:39 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_beats

Is that what you are looking for? Interestingly enough I just sat through a presentation on this effect on children with ADHD and the data concluded that there was a statistically significant result of binaural beats normalizing beta waves. The result of which was demonstrated in the results of computer based repetitive task testing. Pretty cool stuff. On a side note, there are websites out there that sell "experiences" derived from binaural beating recordings:
http://www.binaural-beats.com/binaural-beats/

Oh, I should mention that I am a psych major, no normal person would be this interested in the subject:P
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Post by buzby » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:50 pm

paraclude

thanks for the links - i ll look into it

i know there are places selling binaural "experiences" but i am very cautious about anyone presenting something from a new-age sort of angle - i just find it all too airy-fairy

i ve lived in santa cruz, byron bay and grew up close to Glastonbury it nurtured a resistance in me to most things coming from a new age angle -

at the moment i ve seen lots of things which are said can promote brainwave response to beta, alpha, theta and delta

im interested in something that would trigger out of the body experiences or alter how we dream (so i guess that is delta) but being able to stimulate response in the pineal is something i would love to be able to do

my friend recently listened to some stuff which he said made him feel totally tuned in after listening to it and also afterwards he read an article about eq-ing and he felt like he almost had the experience of photographic memory after reading it

he didnt have to refer back to the article once to remember what to do
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Post by Tone Deft » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:05 pm

binaural has nothing to do with any of that. a friend of mine records rock shows in binaural.

it's simply making a recording by placing microphones where headphones would go. really cool technique but I think you have it twisted.
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Post by buzby » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:25 pm

Tone Deft wrote:binaural has nothing to do with any of that. a friend of mine records rock shows in binaural.

it's simply making a recording by placing microphones where headphones would go. really cool technique but I think you have it twisted.
hi - yeah i have seen these mics - that is binaural recording

i guess its your opinion whether you think that there is anything else to binaural techniques - you re entitled to it - i dont share it
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