Sends: a little help

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Sends: a little help

Post by anti-banausic » Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:44 pm

I know this is normally a pretty personal thing, but I am setting up a new Template and I am just looking for suggestions on what to put on sends, ie

1) Reverb Long
2) Reverb short (plate)
3) Delay
4) Delay
5) Delay
6) Drum Compression

Etc....

Thanks.

AB

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Post by nebulae » Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:47 pm

depends on what you're doing...when I play live, I usually have one send with a beat repeat, dblueGlitch, and Livecut. I map the plugin on/off switch to keys, and then when I send to them, I can trigger them on or off. The nice thing with the send is that it allows me to mix the actual signal being send, so it's not as drastic. I can also send that Glitcher send to other sends, like reverb, which is nice.

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Post by anti-banausic » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:17 pm

nebulae wrote:depends on what you're doing...when I play live, I usually have one send with a beat repeat, dblueGlitch, and Livecut. I map the plugin on/off switch to keys, and then when I send to them, I can trigger them on or off. The nice thing with the send is that it allows me to mix the actual signal being send, so it's not as drastic. I can also send that Glitcher send to other sends, like reverb, which is nice.
Thanks Neb. I was actually setting one up in Logic as more of a production template. I forgot about putting Livecut and supatrigga on different sends. Thanks.

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Post by nebulae » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:20 pm

^ no probs...looking forward to seeing your setup when you're done :)

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Post by leedsquietman » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:25 pm

you can always use Live's FX and just play with the reverb decay/room size/early reflections etc, to shorten or lengthen it. Ditto delays. Live 7's compressor is very good too.

I personally like to use a plate reverb such as Audio Damage's reverence as a shorter reverb, with medium-large room/hall type delays as a second and/or third send.

Delays can be simple delay, audio damage dubstation, or PSP84.

Compressors on send - are you trying to do some kind of parallel compression, or the New York compression trick, where you EQ the lows and highs really steep, scoop some mids and then put an really in your face heavy compressed sound on, as a send and then bring it up underneath the original audio track ?
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Post by nebulae » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:41 pm

^ I prefer ArtsAcoustic reverb, just FYI.

Also, I'd never use a send for the NY Compression trick. I'd create a second track, input the audio from the drum submix, and then I'd compress that and mix it in for thickness. Just my two cents. I suppose you could do that with a send, but I just wouldn't.

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Post by anti-banausic » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:24 am

leedsquietman wrote:you can always use Live's FX and just play with the reverb decay/room size/early reflections etc, to shorten or lengthen it. Ditto delays. Live 7's compressor is very good too.

I personally like to use a plate reverb such as Audio Damage's reverence as a shorter reverb, with medium-large room/hall type delays as a second and/or third send.

Delays can be simple delay, audio damage dubstation, or PSP84.

Compressors on send - are you trying to do some kind of parallel compression, or the New York compression trick, where you EQ the lows and highs really steep, scoop some mids and then put an really in your face heavy compressed sound on, as a send and then bring it up underneath the original audio track ?
Right, in fact, the compressor in Logic can do Parallel compression without being on a send because you can control the dry/wet mix. So drums will be on a separate submix. See, I was being stupid and you guys found me out.
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Post by nebulae » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:36 am

anti-banausic wrote:See, I was being stupid and you guys found me out.
Well, in the South, it's just not proper to discuss one's "shortfalls" right in front of them...

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Post by Jekblad » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:43 am

don't for get redux.
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Post by anti-banausic » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:36 am

nebulae wrote:
anti-banausic wrote:See, I was being stupid and you guys found me out.
Well, in the South, it's just not proper to discuss one's "shortfalls" right in front of them...
'Tis not short, and it doesn't fall.
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Post by optimistic » Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:18 pm

Jekblad wrote:don't for get redux.
oh yeah this one can work well.

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