Andy Goldsworthy = 1 of my Favourite Artists. Doc included

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Andy Goldsworthy = 1 of my Favourite Artists. Doc included

Post by The Phat Conductor » Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:53 pm

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OK, so i got forwarded this link to this artist in residence in vancouver at the bottanical gardens and although she has done some cool stuff in the past, the centrepiece of her artist residency appears to be a direct un-credited bite of Andy Goldsworthy.

I was shocked that such blatant plagiarism was getting government money, and even more shocked that many people seemed to be unaware of the geeeeeenius that is Andy Goldsworthy.

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here's a piece the artist in van did: Image

and here's the Andy Goldsworthy piece it's a bite of: Image please excuse the horrible image quality, it was all i could find and my girlfriend needs the computer.

shit, gotta finish quick...

watch this documentary:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid= ... rthy&hl=en

and here's some lectures about taoist aesthetics that are probably pretty relevant. i make all of my music students listen to these, so that's why the zip is named what it is...

http://www.thephatconductor.com/AlanWat ... icians.zip

enjoy!

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Post by ethios4 » Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:12 pm

+1

I looove Andy Goldsworthy. His art has had a huge impact on me in a fundamental way, along with John Cage's Silence.

I actually liked him a bit less after watching Rivers & Tides.... I much prefer what I get from looking through his book A Collaboration with Nature.

One thing I like the most is that most of his works are made using only the materials immediately around him.....dirt, leaves, ice, spit, etc. I try to apply the same philosophy to selecting samples....I never have far to look.

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Post by mr.adl » Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:43 pm

Definitely my favorite artist!
Such wonderful stuff!

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Post by killingtime » Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:44 pm

Richard Long is also a fave of mine

http://www.richardlong.org/

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Post by tw1nstates » Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:15 pm

Hmm,

Not sure about the plagarism,
His work is great but I think that the ideas aren't exactly original really, geometric forms in nature, havent they been rocking that in Asia for millenia?
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Post by 3dot... » Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:07 pm

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Post by 3dot... » Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:11 pm

I like how he only slightly decorates a scene.... very mellow and 'natural' ...
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Post by 3dot... » Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:21 pm

thx for the audio lectures ...!
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Post by timbreland » Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:14 pm

Robert Smithson did a very similar thing in 1970 (Spiral Jetty, which still exists in Utah). He is considered the originator of "earthwork". So one could consider Goldsworthy's piece a bite as well.

Sometimes artists, using existing works as inspiration and as a starting point, move in very small steps forward. This can certainly be seen in music as well, especially in this postmodern era where everything has been "done" already.


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Post by ethios4 » Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:21 pm

Good to know about Smithson. Goldworthy's work is so primal, I had figured it's been done countless times down through the ages. Bringing order to nature. I think Goldsworthy is particularly well done though, although I also recognize that I have never actually seen any of Andy Goldsworthy's work. I've only ever seen photographs, which is not the same thing. My perception of Andy Goldsworthy's work is definitely shaped by those photos, and when I saw the Rivers & Tides video and actually saw Andy, a bit of the mystery and awe was lost.

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Post by continuous » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:06 am

Rivers and Tides is a must see IMHO. It's also worth checking the sound design...

Goldsworthy is one of my favorite artists, definitely.

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Re: Andy Goldsworthy = 1 of my Favourite Artists. Doc included

Post by starving student » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:19 am

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OK, so i got forwarded this link to this artist in residence in vancouver at the bottanical gardens and although she has done some cool stuff in the past, the centrepiece of her artist residency appears to be a direct un-credited bite of Andy Goldsworthy.

I was shocked that such blatant plagiarism was getting government money, and even more shocked that many people seemed to be unaware of the geeeeeenius that is Andy Goldsworthy.

Image

here's a piece the artist in van did: Image

and here's the Andy Goldsworthy piece it's a bite of: Image please excuse the horrible image quality, it was all i could find and my girlfriend needs the computer.

shit, gotta finish quick...

watch this documentary:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid= ... rthy&hl=en

and here's some lectures about taoist aesthetics that are probably pretty relevant. i make all of my music students listen to these, so that's why the zip is named what it is...

http://www.thephatconductor.com/AlanWat ... icians.zip

enjoy!

d
are there any better quality links for the documentary I don't know if it's my screen or what but it looks very blurry, i'd love to see it clearly

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Post by The Phat Conductor » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:14 pm

you'd probably have to download a torrent.

not sure why people like him less after seeing him work... what were you expecting?

and as for andy goldsworthy ripping off spiral jetty, that's absurd. the only similarity is the spiral shape. when your work is that simple it's bound to use the same shapes as others. when you see the spiral thing in rivers and tides it's totally different (and totally impermanent). to say he ripped off spiral jetty is just silly. it's like saying anyone who paints a circle with a brush is a biter...
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Post by ethios4 » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:39 pm

The Phat Conductor wrote:not sure why people like him less after seeing him work... what were you expecting?
Somebody a little less pretentious? :P
I don't like his work less, just a bit less mystery to it for me now.

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Post by julienb » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:29 pm

+1

I like his work since a long time!
He is a minimalism genius !

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