FOUND: 192 button controller for 45 euros !

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FOUND: 192 button controller for 45 euros !

Post by Coupe70 » Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:48 pm

See below for what I found in the meantime...



I'm searching for a pc keyboard with non-diagonal
key alignment like on a number pad to build a
midi controller. Yes, i know there are some, but
they are special industry keyboards costing
150 dollars or more. I just want a simple 10
or 20 euro keyboard, but with the keys in
straight lines and coloumns.

Is there one ?
Should be clear what I want to use it for...
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Re: SEARCH: pc keyboard with non-diagonal key alignment ?

Post by grantb3 » Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:53 pm

How about a PLUM keyboard. $20USD

http://www.plum.bz/

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Re: SEARCH: pc keyboard with non-diagonal key alignment ?

Post by Coupe70 » Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:48 pm

ah, i haven't heard about plum.
looks good, BUT:

THIS IS MY NEW ABLETON LIVE CONTROLLER:

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-fully programmable
-fully lableable
-rock solid keyboard
-not 550 euro, not 449, not 249 euro....45 euro !!!

will make some room beside my bcr now...

:D :D :D
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Re: SEARCH: pc keyboard with non-diagonal key alignment ?

Post by grantb3 » Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:27 pm

What is it? (brand, etc)

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Re: SEARCH: pc keyboard with non-diagonal key alignment ?

Post by chevthewizard » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:45 pm

loads of weird & wonderful (sadly also very expensive) keyboards on here...

http://www.keyboardspecialists.co.uk/


check this badboy out ...

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http://www.keyboardspecialists.co.uk/pr ... mmable.htm


more lol....

Image

http://www.keyboardspecialists.co.uk/pr ... esktop.htm#

loads more crazy stuff on there...
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Re: SEARCH: pc keyboard with non-diagonal key alignment ?

Post by Coupe70 » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:45 pm

grantb3 wrote:What is it? (brand, etc)
Say that it's good first ! :wink:

I found it after asking here.
It's for pay desk systems and it's from Tipro.
In fact it is two cascaded units, simple programmable keyboards connecting
via PS/2, but of course you can you a PS/2->USB adapter. It has 192 buttons,
so I guess I have to translate some of them to MIDI to use them all in Live...
There is also Preh and others, but Tipro seems to be less expensive.

Got it from ebay here in Germany (I think they still have some). It was
"buy now for 49.90 or propose price" and I proposed 45 euro...
search for Tipro + tastatur.
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Re: FOUND: 192 button controller for 45 euros !

Post by grantb3 » Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:02 am

Here is a PS/2 one if that's acceptable ... 120 keys. (Genovation 854):

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Re: FOUND: 192 button controller for 45 euros !

Post by kristoffer1989 » Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:47 am

this kind of keyboard is so nice! Anyone knows if you could program say two or three of the rows to send midi? I'm thinking buttons for cliptriggering and three rows for actually midipaying of instruments.
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Re: SEARCH: pc keyboard with non-diagonal key alignment ?

Post by serge_a_storms » Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:43 pm

chevthewizard wrote:loads of weird & wonderful (sadly also very expensive) keyboards on here...

http://www.keyboardspecialists.co.uk/


check this badboy out ...

Image
http://www.keyboardspecialists.co.uk/pr ... mmable.htm


more lol....

Image

http://www.keyboardspecialists.co.uk/pr ... esktop.htm#

loads more crazy stuff on there...
Sorry to veer off the thread. Chev, I've Just been listening to your impure evil mix! tis nice.

:-)
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Re: FOUND: 192 button controller for 45 euros !

Post by Coupe70 » Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:57 pm

kristoffer1989 wrote:this kind of keyboard is so nice! Anyone knows if you could program say two or three of the rows to send midi? I'm thinking buttons for cliptriggering and three rows for actually midipaying of instruments.
no.
the keyboard only outputs key commands (a, A, Alt+A and as far as I know you can programm multiple commands per key).
but (of course) it cannot output midi by itself. you can use usine, midi transaltor (not the free version) or whatever
you want to translate the key commands to midi (do a forum search on this). so yes, you can use it for midiplaying
instruments (of course not velocity sensitive). i think with such a big device you HAVE TO translate at least some
of the keys to midi, because Live accepts less than 192 diffenrent keys and key-combinations for keymapping.
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Re: FOUND: 192 button controller for 45 euros !

Post by kristoffer1989 » Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:08 pm

looks really cool. I am starting to think that
Faderfox lv-2
Korg Nanokey
Korg Nanopad
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Might be my superduper setu in a while:D
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Re: SEARCH: pc keyboard with non-diagonal key alignment ?

Post by chevthewizard » Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:37 pm

serge_a_storms wrote:Sorry to veer off the thread. Chev, I've Just been listening to your impure evil mix! tis nice.

:-)
thanks man. :D where did you find it?
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Re: SEARCH: pc keyboard with non-diagonal key alignment ?

Post by serge_a_storms » Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:42 pm

chevthewizard wrote:
serge_a_storms wrote:Sorry to veer off the thread. Chev, I've Just been listening to your impure evil mix! tis nice.

:-)
thanks man. :D where did you find it?
Hijack Bristol. I lived in Bristol for while, so always check for mixes on Hijack and to see what's on when I come to visit.
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Re: SEARCH: pc keyboard with non-diagonal key alignment ?

Post by chevthewizard » Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:49 pm

serge_a_storms wrote:
chevthewizard wrote:
serge_a_storms wrote:Sorry to veer off the thread. Chev, I've Just been listening to your impure evil mix! tis nice.

:-)
thanks man. :D where did you find it?
Hijack Bristol. I lived in Bristol for while, so always check for mixes on Hijack and to see what's on when I come to visit.
Cool. Nice to know it's getting listens off the Hijack forum.
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