WHAT IS THE BEST MASTERING TOOLS / VST FOR ABLETON!!!???!!!

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xemphyte
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WHAT IS THE BEST MASTERING TOOLS / VST FOR ABLETON!!!???!!!

Post by xemphyte » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:31 am

Hello! I am brand new to ableton looking to record the most high quality tracks possible. Ive been told that ableton sucks for mastering (after my purchase of it) but I know it can be done. Ableton is very useful for what I am doing with music, so I find it hard to believe mastering in it could be so difficult. I have played around with the mastering tools in Ableton 7 and they are pretty cool. I am looking for tips on the best methods to use them. I am also wondering if any VST are much better and can produce much finer masterings.
I have heard good things about Ozone and others.


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Re: WHAT IS THE BEST MASTERING TOOLS / VST FOR ABLETON!!!???!!!

Post by Superchibisan » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:39 am

getting a recording done is far seperated from mastering.

to get good recordings you need good signal path and a high quality input.

so, the question bears some reassessment.

are you looking for mastering advice, or recording advice?

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Re: WHAT IS THE BEST MASTERING TOOLS / VST FOR ABLETON!!!???!!!

Post by nathannn » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:38 am

if you are talking about mastering effects i think live's are great now. i really like the new limiter, you can take up every single db with it. its kind of funny to not see a master faders meter not move at all.
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Re: WHAT IS THE BEST MASTERING TOOLS / VST FOR ABLETON!!!???!!!

Post by mkelly » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:13 am

I don't think you should be doing your own mastering. Judging by your all-caps subject line you have no concept of dynamics and will likely compress the shit out of anything you master ;-)
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Re: WHAT IS THE BEST MASTERING TOOLS / VST FOR ABLETON!!!???!!!

Post by timothyallan » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:26 am

I WOULD LOOK AT GETTING A LOT OF OUTBOARD GEAR, YOU CANNOT DO PROPAR MASTARING IN COMPUTERS. YOU MUST USE THINGS LIKE MASSENBERG EQ AND AVALON DISTRESSOR LA2A'S. YOU WILL SPEND MOAR MONEY BUT YOUR MUSIC WILL SOUND MASSAVE IN CLUBZ.

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Post by blackboab » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:05 am

I here this is probably one of the best for ableton:

http://www.dubplates-mastering.com/

As far as I know it also works well with Logic, Cubase, etc. :D

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Post by nathannn » Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:17 am

timothyallan wrote:I WOULD LOOK AT GETTING A LOT OF OUTBOARD GEAR, YOU CANNOT DO PROPAR MASTARING IN COMPUTERS. YOU MUST USE THINGS LIKE MASSENBERG EQ AND AVALON DISTRESSOR LA2A'S. YOU WILL SPEND MOAR MONEY BUT YOUR MUSIC WILL SOUND MASSAVE IN CLUBZ.

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Re: WHAT IS THE BEST MASTERING TOOLS / VST FOR ABLETON!!!???!!!

Post by leedsquietman » Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:18 am

This topic has been discussed ad nauseum many times before, even in the very recent past so I can't be arsed to chime in on it in any depth as previously.

#1 suggestion - consider upgrading to Live 8. Live 7 does not have a limiter, nor does it have a multiband dynamics. Both of which are helpful tools in the box to have.

There are a myriad of 3rd party choices ranging from standalone software such as Ozone and T-racks, to specialized mastering bundles, i.e. Waves, Sonnox or individual plugins such as Voxengo Elephant (limiter), or precision mastering EQs and other tools and way too many more for me to list.
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Re: WHAT IS THE BEST MASTERING TOOLS / VST FOR ABLETON!!!???!!!

Post by pepezabala » Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:51 am

It's always better to have someone else master your music.

I personally do only trust those guys:

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Re: WHAT IS THE BEST MASTERING TOOLS / VST FOR ABLETON!!!???!!!

Post by xemphyte » Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:22 am

I see how this topic can be mundane... I will go with upgrading first off...

I really dont mean to be a bother. I am just very new to recording. Ive been making music for about 10 years though, and now the next step is rec. my material well, and get the best quality possible.

thanks for the links.
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Re: WHAT IS THE BEST MASTERING TOOLS / VST FOR ABLETON!!!???!!!

Post by xemphyte » Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:48 am

I am looking to understand both rec. signal quality and mastering.
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