Live 8: Window focus behaviour corrected. Thank you!

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Live 8: Window focus behaviour corrected. Thank you!

Post by dr.wackler » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:57 pm

I really enjoy the new features and enhancements that Live 8 offers, and think the Abletons have done a fantastic job!

One thing though is absolutely counterproductive: The new window focus behaviour. As soon as you have clicked anywhere in a plugin's window, you can not control anything in Live's main window by the computer-keyboard anymore, not even play/stop with the spacebar.

Please, as soon as possible, give us a preference to disable this behavior.
It's a real workflow killer!



EDIT: Subject line changed after v8.0.4 came out.
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Re: Live 8: Window focus behaviour needs to be changed!

Post by Tone Deft » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:59 pm

next year, try beta testing.

this year, stfu.


anyway, wrong forum, put this is in the Features Request forum. you're late to the party. :roll:




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Re: Live 8: Window focus behaviour needs to be changed!

Post by beats me » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:03 pm

^ but this does sound like a bug, not a feature request.

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Re: Live 8: Window focus behaviour needs to be changed!

Post by dr.wackler » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:04 pm

Tone Deft wrote:next year, try beta testing.

this year, stfu.


anyway, wrong forum, put this is in the Features Request forum. you're late to the party. :roll:




christ, what's up with these whiners? clueless...
What's your problem?

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Re: Live 8: Window focus behaviour needs to be changed!

Post by Tone Deft » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:06 pm

where were you when we were testing beta 8? now it's released and you start paying attention?

wrong forum.

no problem, ranting. ;)
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Re: Live 8: Window focus behaviour needs to be changed!

Post by dr.wackler » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:08 pm

beats me wrote:^ but this does sound like a bug, not a feature request.
Like mentioned in a beta thread, it's most probably not a bug, but the new window management system, that allows keyboard control of plugins now. As people already mentioned, that this is counterproductive in many cases, I was hoping they would fix/change it for the final release. Obviously they have not.

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Re: Live 8: Window focus behaviour needs to be changed!

Post by dr.wackler » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:10 pm

Tone Deft wrote:where were you when we were testing beta 8? now it's released and you start paying attention?

wrong forum.

no problem, ranting. ;)
1. Not everyone has time to betatest. Some people have to work.
2. I did pay attention, see post above.
3. Stop bitchin around here please.

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Re: Live 8: Window focus behaviour needs to be changed!

Post by dr.wackler » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:13 pm

4. Ok, saw your :wink: smiley. :wink:

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Re: Live 8: Window focus behaviour needs to be changed!

Post by Tone Deft » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:16 pm

dr.wackler wrote:
Tone Deft wrote:where were you when we were testing beta 8? now it's released and you start paying attention?

wrong forum.

no problem, ranting. ;)
1. Not everyone has time to betatest. Some people have to work.
2. I did pay attention, see post above.
3. Stop bitchin around here please.
1. you think you're the only one with a job? piss off. I'm putting in 50-60 hour weeks, I've got RSI, 7.5 weeks of vacation saved up and I can't find time to get a day off. I love this argument, you didn't have time to beta test but Live 8 is released and you're on it right away, total bullshit excuse. it doesn't add up.

2. that's not what I'm talking about.

3. your whole thread is bitching and it's in the wrong forum. it's not you man, it's the plethora of whiny little bitches that didn't beta test and are wondering why 8.01 isn't working for them. look around, you'll see.
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Re: Live 8: Window focus behaviour needs to be changed!

Post by 4ace » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:19 pm

dr.wackler wrote:I really enjoy the new features and enhancements that Live 8 offers, and think the Abletons have done a fantastic job!

One thing though is absolutely counterproductive: The new window focus behaviour. As soon as you have clicked anywhere in a plugin's window, you can not control anything in Live's main window by the computer-keyboard anymore, not even play/stop with the spacebar.

Please, as soon as possible, give us a preference to disable this behavior.
It's a real workflow killer!
This isn't the case for me. It works the way it always has.

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Re: Live 8: Window focus behaviour needs to be changed!

Post by glitchrock-buddha » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:26 pm

Tone Deft wrote:where were you when we were testing beta 8? now it's released and you start paying attention?

wrong forum.

no problem, ranting. ;)
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Re: Live 8: Window focus behaviour needs to be changed!

Post by dr.wackler » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:27 pm

4ace wrote:
dr.wackler wrote:I really enjoy the new features and enhancements that Live 8 offers, and think the Abletons have done a fantastic job!

One thing though is absolutely counterproductive: The new window focus behaviour. As soon as you have clicked anywhere in a plugin's window, you can not control anything in Live's main window by the computer-keyboard anymore, not even play/stop with the spacebar.

Please, as soon as possible, give us a preference to disable this behavior.
It's a real workflow killer!
This isn't the case for me. It works the way it always has.

Are you PC or Mac you have no Sig!
Mac, AU plugins. It's not the case with all plugins, most probably only with those that are laid out for accepting keyboard input, for example Stylus RMX, Omnisphere, Addictive Drums, most Audiodamage plugins, and many more.

Try using the browsers in RMX or Omnisphere to search for a sound. A process, where it's not uncommon to hit the spacebar for start/stop each time you've selected a new sound, so that you can hear a certain clip/sequence from the start.
No problem with Live 7, but with Live 8 you have to click into the main window every time you've selected another sound, just to be able to use the spacebar for starting/stopping playback. Absolutely counterproductive.

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Re: Live 8: Window focus behaviour needs to be changed!

Post by Tone Deft » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:29 pm

glitchrock-buddha wrote:
Tone Deft wrote:where were you when we were testing beta 8? now it's released and you start paying attention?

wrong forum.

no problem, ranting. ;)
Tone, Tone, Tone...

This has been a well-documented and bitched about bug throughout the beta testing! Where were you?!
lmfao for real!!

I forgot.

it's Monday goddamnit!!

my apologies to Wackler, I'm over the top today.
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Re: Live 8: Window focus behaviour needs to be changed!

Post by djsynchro » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:33 pm

It only happens on Mac :twisted: no problems here, at all, whatsoever.

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Re: Live 8: Window focus behaviour needs to be changed!

Post by dr.wackler » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:36 pm

Tone Deft wrote:my apologies to Wackler, I'm over the top today.
Accepted. :wink:

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