Group Buy: Aether Reverb

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Re: Group Buy: Aether Reverb

Post by xherv » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:02 pm

Bionecteur wrote: In my opinion it is a different beast to Altiverb ( only IR) an not comparable.
For sure. IR and algo reverbs are as different the way samples and other types of synthesis are different. Altiverb has an amazing, well engineered 'sample' library that makes it special. Aether feels like it's innovating on the algorithmic side - it's got kind of a signature, unique effect-y quality that is aesthetically rich.
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Re: Group Buy: Aether Reverb

Post by polyslax » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:04 pm

Bionecteur wrote:Bounce: sorry , there is no demo for Altiverb actually
You sure about that? There used to be.
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Re: Group Buy: Aether Reverb

Post by polyslax » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:06 pm

polyslax wrote:
Bionecteur wrote:Bounce: sorry , there is no demo for Altiverb actually
You sure about that? There used to be.
Ok, had a look at their site... looks like they're temporarily unavailable.
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Re: Group Buy: Aether Reverb

Post by locojohn » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:09 pm

xherv wrote:
Bionecteur wrote: In my opinion it is a different beast to Altiverb ( only IR) an not comparable.
For sure. IR and algo reverbs are as different the way samples and other types of synthesis are different. Altiverb has an amazing, well engineered 'sample' library that makes it special. Aether feels like it's innovating on the algorithmic side - it's got kind of a signature, unique effect-y quality that is aesthetically rich.
Not only that. There are particular limitations with convolution reverbs in that you cannot physically change properties of a particular acoustic space once it has been recorded as a FIR. You cannot, for example, extend the decay time longer than the length of the sample itself, or you cannot adjust the pre-delay and/or ER values of the convolution reverb, since it has all these parameters fixed in the sampled wave file.

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Re: Group Buy: Aether Reverb

Post by polyslax » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:22 pm

locojohn wrote:
xherv wrote:
Bionecteur wrote: In my opinion it is a different beast to Altiverb ( only IR) an not comparable.
For sure. IR and algo reverbs are as different the way samples and other types of synthesis are different. Altiverb has an amazing, well engineered 'sample' library that makes it special. Aether feels like it's innovating on the algorithmic side - it's got kind of a signature, unique effect-y quality that is aesthetically rich.
Not only that. There are particular limitations with convolution reverbs in that you cannot physically change properties of a particular acoustic space once it has been recorded as a FIR. You cannot, for example, extend the decay time longer than the length of the sample itself, or you cannot adjust the pre-delay and/or ER values of the convolution reverb, since it has all these parameters fixed in the sampled wave file.

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You actually can change some of this data in Altiverb. That said, your best option is probably to choose the correct IR in the first place, and between the huge included library and the available 3rd party sets your options don't feel limited by any means.
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Re: Group Buy: Aether Reverb

Post by Bionecteur » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:41 pm

Yes and I am really sad about this ...I have Speakerphone and would love to try Altiverb...
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polyslax wrote:
Bionecteur wrote:Bounce: sorry , there is no demo for Altiverb actually
You sure about that? There used to be.
Ok, had a look at their site... looks like they're temporarily unavailable.
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Re: Group Buy: Aether Reverb

Post by Bionecteur » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:49 pm

I agree totally! I am so excited about the AE Reverb...
xherv wrote:
Bionecteur wrote: In my opinion it is a different beast to Altiverb ( only IR) an not comparable.
For sure. IR and algo reverbs are as different the way samples and other types of synthesis are different. Altiverb has an amazing, well engineered 'sample' library that makes it special. Aether feels like it's innovating on the algorithmic side - it's got kind of a signature, unique effect-y quality that is aesthetically rich.
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Re: Group Buy: Aether Reverb

Post by elxicano » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:56 pm

Still you have to admit... It's hard to pass up at least downloading a demo of product, now offered at $125, when it's being compared to a $500 IR reverb like Altiverb. This is after all an algorithmic reverb, and IMO this does a beautiful job of recreating space.

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Re: Group Buy: Aether Reverb

Post by timothyallan » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:15 pm

Damnit, I'm such a sucker. I'm in now too.

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Re: Group Buy: Aether Reverb

Post by glitchrock-buddha » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:17 pm

timothyallan wrote:I really want to like it, but the interface is just not doing it for me. CPU load is 3-4x as much as my Sonnox reverb as well unfortunately.
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timothyallan wrote:Damnit, I'm such a sucker. I'm in now too.
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Re: Group Buy: Aether Reverb

Post by timothyallan » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:27 pm

Oh, those still apply.

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Re: Group Buy: Aether Reverb

Post by elxicano » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:51 pm

timothyallan wrote:Oh, those still apply.

:)
Hey man, the good news is that they're already working on a 1.1 release to address a lot of issues. Hopefully they'll address CPU load.

They did say that they are taking into consideration GUI changes and will be working to address it, possibly with an alternative.

So for sure, at least one of the two won't be an issue forever... and in time I imagine they'll take care of both issues. These guys are extremely receptive to critiques, complaints, etc... All more reasons to feel good about buying in! 8)

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Re: Group Buy: Aether Reverb

Post by morerecords » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:11 am

b0unce wrote:
morerecords wrote:save your money- this reverb is WAY over-hyped. This si not a greta sounding reverb by any means whatsoever, regardless of innovative approach to ealry reflections or anything else... tI tried this verb, there is nothing special about it whatsoever....not tryin to be harsh, just...the truth, save your money
seriously, were you sniffing glue when you typed this ?

no man, what do you know, really? didn't you scam ableton out of free version 7 because it wouldn't load your nki's? what do you know, you piece of shit? C'mon do you even make music? doubtful.

no-seriously, I really was not impressed with this reverb, at any price. in fact I was very disappointed, their approach was great. The ik multimedia CSR reverb collections is great if you have the dough, or for less there is a wonderful ADverb from Audio damage, and BY FAR you could get a much better deal by sepding the introductory $150 over at U-HE for his uhbik plug in s collection, which truly is phenomanal, including hte reverb... really, a nice reverb, plus amazing filter and flanger combined for a fraction of the cost of aether. I can't tell you how excited I was and then how let down I was by that reverb... uhbik all the way

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Re: Group Buy: Aether Reverb

Post by b0unce » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:29 am

heh, no I don't press vinyl or digitally release tunes, I'm just a peon making crumbs in the local TV industry, I mix in stereo which seems to be a NONO with you cocksucker types.

My point, STILL stands. You were probably sniffing glue when you thought you'd save someone money by shitting out your opinion on the net.
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Re: Group Buy: Aether Reverb

Post by otnooishphoo » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:33 am

polyslax wrote:
polyslax wrote:
Bionecteur wrote:Bounce: sorry , there is no demo for Altiverb actually
You sure about that? There used to be.
Ok, had a look at their site... looks like they're temporarily unavailable.
probably moving to ilok demo.
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