am i the only one who isn't excited about the apc40

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am i the only one who isn't excited about the apc40

Post by john gordon » Fri May 01, 2009 3:48 am

i have the remote sl and maschine.i dont see a need for it.i also use my iphone like a scaled down lemur.i think the apc40 would be redundant in my case.anyone else not really so hyped about it.i forgot..i also have a ecler evo5 which has midi stuff as well.

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Re: am i the only one who isn't excited about the apc40

Post by MrYellow » Fri May 01, 2009 4:09 am

At the price I'm thinking a midibox with LC module and some changes to the firmware would be a better.

The price point is just a bit silly when they can be built for so **much** less with so much more flexibility.

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Re: am i the only one who isn't excited about the apc40

Post by timothyallan » Fri May 01, 2009 4:17 am

I've got no use for one currently. Still a neat toy though, we'll see what M4L brings to it.

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Re: am i the only one who isn't excited about the apc40

Post by longjohns » Fri May 01, 2009 5:03 am

MrYellow wrote:At the price I'm thinking a midibox with LC module and some changes to the firmware would be a better.

The price point is just a bit silly when they can be built for so **much** less with so much more flexibility.

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it depends on how you value your time, I suppose

"much" less than $400????????

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Re: am i the only one who isn't excited about the apc40

Post by bog » Fri May 01, 2009 5:09 am

It's way too big and costs too much for what it is, like all Akai products.

Other alternatives:

Mouse-free navigation in Live: Any midi controller and keystroke to MIDI translators like Bome and MIDIstroke along with midi yoke/IAC, generic usb keypad, or a Novation controller with Automap 3 Pro.

Session view clip matrix controller: Maschine

Tactile step sequencer: Maschine or iphone/ipod touch

Automatic mapping of selected device's macro controls: Any midi controller that has 8 knobs and Live's instant mapping, Maschine, or a Novation controller with Automap.
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Re: am i the only one who isn't excited about the apc40

Post by john doe by choice » Fri May 01, 2009 5:11 am

+1 for the "not me's"

simple clip triggering is nice for those who need it, I guess, but I don't need it and wouldn't encourage anyone buying anything from Numarkai during the first round.

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Re: am i the only one who isn't excited about the apc40

Post by MrYellow » Fri May 01, 2009 5:13 am

longjohns wrote: it depends on how you value your time, I suppose

"much" less than $400????????
I'm fast :-)

edit: btw it's AU$1000 (USD$730) here in Australia.

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Re: am i the only one who isn't excited about the apc40

Post by twisted-space » Fri May 01, 2009 9:25 am

It's $570 here (£399).
There's lots of things I'd rather spend that kind of money on.

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Re: am i the only one who isn't excited about the apc40

Post by djsynchro » Fri May 01, 2009 9:41 am

Akai are really doing great PR for themselves with their "fair" pricing scheme.
Let's hope the dollar tanks even more, that'll teach them :twisted:

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Re: am i the only one who isn't excited about the apc40

Post by 33tetragammon » Fri May 01, 2009 10:58 am

for my kind of music i really don't need an apc-40 for some basic mixing/device/clip control.
i understand that a lot of other people might need it for remixing/dj'ing or whatever,but i feel that the Abes SHOULD add this stuff to the SOFTWARE first:

-RECORDABLE CLIP ENVELOPES.
-MOUSEFREE OPERATION

perfect that,and THEN build the mother of all hardware controllers.
that's the way i would do it.....

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Re: am i the only one who isn't excited about the apc40

Post by Jarvisimon » Fri May 01, 2009 11:06 am

The thing that gets me with most of these controllers is that USB 3 is just around the corner, so it's out-dated within 6 months - 1 year of its release.

I'm going to wait it out until a few more incarnations have gone by and a few extra features have been added.

If it were also a sound card with a hard drive and some extra processing power that could boost the power of your computer then I would have bitten.

I'm sure it's great but it's not actually necessary for most people who already have some kind of controller.

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Re: am i the only one who isn't excited about the apc40

Post by Gab » Fri May 01, 2009 11:36 am

Jarvisimon wrote:The thing that gets me with most of these controllers is that USB 3 is just around the corner, so it's out-dated within 6 months - 1 year of its release.
As the APC is just a controller, would it really benefit from the extended bandwidth of a USB 3 connection? Or has USB 3 other benefits over 2 that would make a USB 3 APC more reliable?
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Re: am i the only one who isn't excited about the apc40

Post by Jarvisimon » Fri May 01, 2009 11:54 am

Gab wrote:
Jarvisimon wrote:The thing that gets me with most of these controllers is that USB 3 is just around the corner, so it's out-dated within 6 months - 1 year of its release.
As the APC is just a controller, would it really benefit from the extended bandwidth of a USB 3 connection? Or has USB 3 other benefits over 2 that would make a USB 3 APC more reliable?
I suppose in its present state, No, it wouldn't really benefit greately from USB 3.

Personally, I would really love something like this to further my laptop's capabilities. If they expanded its use to incorporate audio and extra plug-in power, then yes, USB 3 would be a necessity.

Perhaps something for Akai/Ableton to look at in the future. Alas, at present, this is wishful thinking.

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Re: am i the only one who isn't excited about the apc40

Post by longjohns » Fri May 01, 2009 12:30 pm

I forgot to consider that it was more expensive outiside the US

can people from other countries purchase from US online retailers?

or have a friend purchase, and ship?
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Re: am i the only one who isn't excited about the apc40

Post by Jarvisimon » Fri May 01, 2009 12:32 pm

longjohns wrote:can people from other countries purchase from US online retailers?

or have a friend purchase, and ship overseas?
Of course they can, as long as they pay the export/import duties, which can make the thing a hell of a lot more expensive than it first appears.

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