compression effects

Discussion of music production, audio, equipment and any related topics, either with or without Ableton Live
luther66
Posts: 18
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:01 am

compression effects

Post by luther66 » Wed May 06, 2009 9:11 pm

Hi there,ive upgraded to live 7 full version.
can you tell me where i can get tutorials for using vocal effects and compression.i have looked in live manual but it doesnt go into detail about individual effects.
many thanks

djsynchro
Posts: 7471
Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:06 pm
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Contact:

Re: compression effects

Post by djsynchro » Wed May 06, 2009 9:19 pm


Robert Henke
Posts: 1193
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:38 am
Location: Berlin

Re: compression effects

Post by Robert Henke » Wed May 06, 2009 9:58 pm

yep, google helps:

Compressibility [work on]

The reciprocal value of the bulk modulus is the compressibility (symbol: ? or ?), also compressibility coefficient. This is often used with gases and liquids instead of the bulk modulus.
One differentiates between isothermal compressibility ?T (constant temperature T and constant particle number of N), whereby F (T, V, N) the free energy is and adiabatic compressibility ?S (constant entropy S and constant particle number of N), whereby E (S, V, N) the internal energy is

For a long time the compressibility was doubted by liquids, to it John CAN clay/tone 1761, Jacob Perkins 1820 and Hans Christian Oersted 1822 by measurements to prove could. With gases the compressibility follows the Boyle Mariotte law.


Bulk modulus of solids with isotropic material behavior [work on]

One can calculate the bulk modulus here by other elasticity constants, under a condition linear reading tables of behavior and isotropic material:

where: ? E - Modulus of elasticity ? µ - Poissonzahl ? G - Shear modulus

Tone Deft
Posts: 24155
Joined: Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:19 pm

Re: compression effects

Post by Tone Deft » Wed May 06, 2009 9:59 pm

^ can we just ban this smart ass?

don't compress! it's an awful effect that destroys music!

this guy's guides are very well respected. learn mastering and production techniques, those will guide you on WHEN to use compression.
http://www.tarekith.com/misc.html

things sound good because they were recorded and played beautifully, not because someone added effects.
Last edited by Tone Deft on Wed May 06, 2009 10:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.
In my life
Why do I smile
At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?
-Moz

djsynchro
Posts: 7471
Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:06 pm
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Contact:

Re: compression effects

Post by djsynchro » Wed May 06, 2009 10:00 pm

Told you! :D

djsynchro
Posts: 7471
Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:06 pm
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Contact:

Re: compression effects

Post by djsynchro » Wed May 06, 2009 10:00 pm

Tone Deft wrote:^ can we just ban this smart ass?
Bad idea he works for Ableton

Tone Deft
Posts: 24155
Joined: Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:19 pm

Re: compression effects

Post by Tone Deft » Wed May 06, 2009 10:02 pm

djsynchro wrote:
Tone Deft wrote:^ can we just ban this smart ass?
Bad idea he works for Ableton
one less salary to pay out means lower prices for us!
In my life
Why do I smile
At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?
-Moz

Robert Henke
Posts: 1193
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:38 am
Location: Berlin

Re: compression effects

Post by Robert Henke » Wed May 06, 2009 10:03 pm

// damn you guys are way too fast for me could no post this here in time....


okay, before i come across as arrogant idiot (...):

The first question to ask is not what does the compressor do, the first question is: what sound do you want to get on the vocals? And if you think a compressor is the way to go, why not simply using the build in in Live and play with it till you get an idea of what goes on. If you want to know what a compressor does in general, so that you can make more sense out of : Gain-reduction, Ratio,Threshold, Attack, Release, you will find indeed a lot of stuff online.

Robert

Robert Henke
Posts: 1193
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:38 am
Location: Berlin

Re: compression effects

Post by Robert Henke » Wed May 06, 2009 10:04 pm

LOL
Do we have a good time in CA, Tone ???

otnooishphoo
Posts: 146
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:34 pm

Re: compression effects

Post by otnooishphoo » Wed May 06, 2009 10:05 pm

i always zip up the vocal track.

don't forget to unzip it though
live doesn't read .zip

Tone Deft
Posts: 24155
Joined: Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:19 pm

Re: compression effects

Post by Tone Deft » Wed May 06, 2009 10:06 pm

Robert Henke wrote:LOL
Do we have a good time in CA, Tone ???
YES!! but only because I have the forum at work. :D
In my life
Why do I smile
At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?
-Moz

Robert Henke
Posts: 1193
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:38 am
Location: Berlin

Re: compression effects

Post by Robert Henke » Wed May 06, 2009 10:06 pm

this will introduce zipper noise

Tone Deft
Posts: 24155
Joined: Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:19 pm

Re: compression effects

Post by Tone Deft » Wed May 06, 2009 10:06 pm

.jar file?
In my life
Why do I smile
At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?
-Moz

Robert Henke
Posts: 1193
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:38 am
Location: Berlin

Re: compression effects

Post by Robert Henke » Wed May 06, 2009 10:07 pm

good old forum. i love it in semi chat mode.

Robert Henke
Posts: 1193
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:38 am
Location: Berlin

Re: compression effects

Post by Robert Henke » Wed May 06, 2009 10:07 pm

much better, jar sounds warmer.

Post Reply