compression effects

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otnooishphoo
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Re: compression effects

Post by otnooishphoo » Wed May 06, 2009 10:08 pm

Robert Henke wrote:this will introduce zipper noise

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Re: compression effects

Post by Robert Henke » Wed May 06, 2009 10:09 pm

thats good isn't it?

hey TD, stop working. write more fun stuff or help confusing people !!!

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Re: compression effects

Post by Tone Deft » Wed May 06, 2009 10:11 pm

I tell my boss I had your OK, shouldn't be a problem. I'll tell him you're a stock car racer or something.


I put cinder blocks on my monitors for heavy compression.
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Re: compression effects

Post by otnooishphoo » Wed May 06, 2009 10:12 pm

Tone Deft wrote:I tell my boss I had your OK, shouldn't be a problem. I'll tell him you're a stock car racer or something.


I put cinder blocks on my monitors for heavy compression.

i wear a hat thats too small

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Re: compression effects

Post by Robert Henke » Wed May 06, 2009 10:13 pm

<bad joke>

Hey, what s a CRT display with too much compression?
A TFT.

</bad joke>

okay. this thread is compressed to deaf.

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Re: compression effects

Post by Tone Deft » Wed May 06, 2009 10:15 pm

otnooishphoo wrote:
Tone Deft wrote:I tell my boss I had your OK, shouldn't be a problem. I'll tell him you're a stock car racer or something.


I put cinder blocks on my monitors for heavy compression.

i wear a hat thats too small
that's a classic one, goes back to Africa.
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that's why hip hop beats sound better with a tight hat on, it's the African roots in the music.
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Re: compression effects

Post by Robert Henke » Wed May 06, 2009 10:16 pm

oh shit its img time again....

never heard of image compression?
like 100px x 100px maximum image level ????

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Re: compression effects

Post by Robert Henke » Wed May 06, 2009 10:29 pm

okay. here comes the serious answer.

Take a vocal loop and try it out. Throw a Compressor in the track and play with those Parameters:

Threshold,Ratio,Attack,Decay.

Threshold:
Defines how loud a signal needs to be for compression to start.

Ratio:
Defines how much the signal gets compressed when it is above the threshold

Attack/Decay:
Defines how long it takes for the compressor to start compressing / to recover after the signal got over the threshold.

Gain Reduction meter:
Tells you how much the compressor actually does.

If you played long enough with those parameters and a vocal loop, you'll get an idea of what it does. For vocals the next step you would want to try is using the side chain EQ in Compressor to only compress the signal if there is loud high frequencies in your vocals. This can smooth the sound nicely. For compression there is only one real rule: try out, gain experience....

Robert

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Re: compression effects

Post by Tone Deft » Wed May 06, 2009 10:31 pm

pic fixed.

what would you sidechain the high end of the vocals to? as in, you sidechain the kick into the bass' compressor that that tight low end sound.
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Re: compression effects

Post by Robert Henke » Wed May 06, 2009 10:39 pm

not really side chain. side chain to self with the EQ active. should more called colored compression (tm).
idea: if you boost the highs / high mids in the control path, the compressor will be more sensitive to that freq. range. i think this makes sense. no?

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Re: compression effects

Post by Tone Deft » Wed May 06, 2009 10:41 pm

crazy, I never thought of sidechaining a signal to itself. I guess the attack and release settings could help with feedback type issues?

as my boss for the day, can you send me home early so I can go try this?
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Re: compression effects

Post by Robert Henke » Wed May 06, 2009 10:46 pm

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Der XY Instruments,

your engineer Tone Deft does not want to stay any longer in his cubicle. Please let him free for today!! He will go to the Prague or hike to Amsterdam and have a beer. His doc is fine with that.

Dr. Henkmann

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