APC 40 Pricing EU Vs US > WTF!?

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acidman
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APC 40 Pricing EU Vs US > WTF!?

Post by acidman » Mon May 11, 2009 4:39 pm

how can it be that us-shops list it for $380 - $399 and eu shops ~ 440 - 449,- EURO!

hey come one akai&ableton what weird stuff :roll: is this here?

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Re: APC 40 Pricing EU Vs US > WTF!?

Post by Android Bishop » Mon May 11, 2009 4:56 pm

Rave wrote:
acidman wrote:how can it be that us-shops list it for $380 - $399 and eu shops ~ 440 - 449,- EURO!

hey come one akai&ableton what weird stuff :roll: is this here?

The U.S have always had it good when it comes to electronics.
Yeah but we get shafted on all that damn EU produced software.

Acidman: dont hate, this is the first break the U.S. has gotten in 8 years

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Re: APC 40 Pricing EU Vs US > WTF!?

Post by acidman » Mon May 11, 2009 5:12 pm

Android Bishop wrote:
Rave wrote:
acidman wrote:how can it be that us-shops list it for $380 - $399 and eu shops ~ 440 - 449,- EURO!

hey come one akai&ableton what weird stuff :roll: is this here?

The U.S have always had it good when it comes to electronics.
Yeah but we get shafted on all that damn EU produced software.

Acidman: dont hate, this is the first break the U.S. has gotten in 8 years

for eu software we all pay the same > euro amount.
for us software. most of eu customers have to pay in euro. (if you buy it eg at local music store..)
sidenote: often eu sw is cheaper in us shops as in eu. (thats the craziest stuff of all!)

449,- euro (apc in eu) = $609 instead of $399 in us.

normally shops convert $ directly to euro. eg something in us cost $100 we have to pay 100eur.

but now its $399 in us and (converted) $609 in eu? there is something completely wrong if you ask me.
who is the sucker which collects $200 here. (this question is not regarding customs ;-)

and as it`s produced in china as all the other stuff > the way of the product to the customer is the same.
fuckin eu. sorry but i really hate this so much. :evil:

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Re: APC 40 Pricing EU Vs US > WTF!?

Post by ewistrand » Mon May 11, 2009 6:08 pm

acidman wrote:but now its $399 in us and (converted) $609 in eu? there is something completely wrong if you ask me.
who is the sucker which collects $200 here. (this question is not regarding customs ;-)
The respective governments. The US doesn't have VAT...

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Re: APC 40 Pricing EU Vs US > WTF!?

Post by Tone Deft » Mon May 11, 2009 6:10 pm

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Re: APC 40 Pricing EU Vs US > WTF!?

Post by Emissary » Mon May 11, 2009 6:37 pm

Android Bishop wrote:
Rave wrote:
acidman wrote:how can it be that us-shops list it for $380 - $399 and eu shops ~ 440 - 449,- EURO!

hey come one akai&ableton what weird stuff :roll: is this here?

The U.S have always had it good when it comes to electronics.
Yeah but we get shafted on all that damn EU produced software.

Acidman: dont hate, this is the first break the U.S. has gotten in 8 years
what a pile of utter bullshit.

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Re: APC 40 Pricing EU Vs US > WTF!?

Post by b0unce » Mon May 11, 2009 6:57 pm

Android Bishop wrote:
Rave wrote:
acidman wrote:how can it be that us-shops list it for $380 - $399 and eu shops ~ 440 - 449,- EURO!

hey come one akai&ableton what weird stuff :roll: is this here?

The U.S have always had it good when it comes to electronics.
Yeah but we get shafted on all that damn EU produced software.

Acidman: dont hate, this is the first break the U.S. has gotten in 8 years
Absolute bullshit.
Wrong-factor 10.
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Re: APC 40 Pricing EU Vs US > WTF!?

Post by djsynchro » Mon May 11, 2009 7:02 pm

Akai are getting some bad PR out of their pricing scheme...

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Re: APC 40 Pricing EU Vs US > WTF!?

Post by ewistrand » Mon May 11, 2009 7:10 pm

djsynchro wrote:Akai are getting some bad PR out of their pricing scheme...
Read my answer above. They have nothing to do with it; it's the EU and VAT that's the cause.

ew

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Re: APC 40 Pricing EU Vs US > WTF!?

Post by acidman » Mon May 11, 2009 7:20 pm

ewistrand wrote:
djsynchro wrote:Akai are getting some bad PR out of their pricing scheme...
Read my answer above. They have nothing to do with it; it's the EU and VAT that's the cause.

ew
sorry but thats wrong ...


normaly shops tend to only switch Dollar to Euro here in europe. (eg $399 = Eur 399)

but in apc 40 case there is more wrong than this! as written on one of my posts above:
$399 in us and (converted) $609 in eu

if i eg selfimport it form us for eg 399,- i`ll get it for $540 inclusive shipping & inclusive eu customs.

but distributors in eu are not private persons like me nor do they import from usa.
they import from china. (same as us distributors do)

so again this is why i wrote that somethig here is completely wrong.
someone in distribution chain thinks customers are idiots and unable to compare us / eu prices..
thats the big point here :?

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Re: APC 40 Pricing EU Vs US > WTF!?

Post by Android Bishop » Mon May 11, 2009 7:21 pm

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pretty much

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Re: APC 40 Pricing EU Vs US > WTF!?

Post by TITBAG » Mon May 11, 2009 8:37 pm

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Re: APC 40 Pricing EU Vs US > WTF!?

Post by b0unce » Mon May 11, 2009 9:34 pm

Android Bishop wrote:
Rave wrote:
acidman wrote:how can it be that us-shops list it for $380 - $399 and eu shops ~ 440 - 449,- EURO!

hey come one akai&ableton what weird stuff :roll: is this here?

The U.S have always had it good when it comes to electronics.
Yeah but we get shafted on all that damn EU produced software.

Acidman: dont hate, this is the first break the U.S. has gotten in 8 years
So wrong it needs pointing out twice. Also edited to be the same colour as a wino's turd.

WRONG.
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Re: APC 40 Pricing EU Vs US > WTF!?

Post by leedsquietman » Mon May 11, 2009 9:49 pm

It's mostly like ewi pointed out. Mostly governments customs and excise are getting the benefit, although you do have to wonder on some transactions ...

Example is Cubase 5 retailing at $499 US dollars and costing 549 euros (which is equivalent to $745 US Dollars) and 451 UK Pounds ($689 US Dollars). Steinberg/Yamaha blame it on currency fluctuations.

Live 8 Suite 625 euros (848 US dollars), 552 UK pounds (833 dollars), and US Dollars is 799. So very little difference from Ableton, while Cubase customers in the UK and Europe get the shaft !!

p.s. prices quoted are from Thomann for UK and Europe and Zzounds.com for US prices.


As for the APC40, it does suck that europeans are paying the equivalent of almost 610 US Dollars based on 440 euro at today's conversion rate as opposed to sub 400 dollars in the US. And electronics is one area I have consistently noticed as being quite a bit lower overall in the USA (especially) and Canada (to a degree) than in the UK, given I emigrated from the UK in 2000 to Canada and live close enough to do some cross border shopping into the USA once in a while.
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Re: APC 40 Pricing EU Vs US > WTF!?

Post by dm_hawk » Mon May 11, 2009 10:28 pm

yeah - that price scheme is fucked up, no doubt.
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