APC 40 or Maschine ?

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APC 40 or Maschine ?

Post by brianbacio » Sun May 31, 2009 10:31 am

just bought APC 40 and am very pleased with all functionalities-hands on my clips and all-BUT how much more of a rich experience would i have as a controller for Live with Maschine ? Maschine seems to be a sort of super Trigger finger with built in sequencer capability.
I am not beat oriented in my music creation. And i have a Monome 256. SO, did i make the right choice ?
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Re: APC 40 or Maschine ?

Post by djsynchro » Sun May 31, 2009 10:43 am

no so send it to me

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Re: APC 40 or Maschine ?

Post by nuxnamon » Sun May 31, 2009 12:00 pm

i got the maschine but it's no apc... that being said, the apc is no maschine either.. both totally different and great in their own right.. get both..

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Re: APC 40 or Maschine ?

Post by brianbacio » Sun May 31, 2009 12:08 pm

i got the maschine but it's no apc... that being said, the apc is no maschine either.. both totally different and great in their own right.. get both..
your solution = many buttons and a much €
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Re: APC 40 or Maschine ?

Post by john gordon » Sun May 31, 2009 3:47 pm

i love maschine and when they update the os it will be sick.usually by now my gear lust will have faded,but i still rock the shit out of it everyday.the effects are second to none.

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Re: APC 40 or Maschine ?

Post by G-force » Sun May 31, 2009 6:49 pm

They both look good together!

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Re: APC 40 or Maschine ?

Post by contakt321 » Sun May 31, 2009 7:08 pm

two different pieces with different purposes.

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Re: APC 40 or Maschine ?

Post by Tone Deft » Sun May 31, 2009 7:39 pm

contakt321 wrote:two different pieces with different purposes.
exactly.

anyone comparing the two is a gear-tard. this has been going on for months, no real excuse for this kind of fuckwittery. at this point even my wife can tell you the difference.
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Re: APC 40 or Maschine ?

Post by glitchrock-buddha » Sun May 31, 2009 7:51 pm

Tone Deft wrote:
contakt321 wrote:two different pieces with different purposes.
exactly.

anyone comparing the two is a gear-tard. this has been going on for months, no real excuse for this kind of fuckwittery. at this point even my wife can tell you the difference.
Exactly. Totally different purposes.

Maschine = drum controller. Although it can be used for triggering live clips and making melodic parts, a 4X4 matrix with 8 knobs is hardly perfect for controlling Live. And the melodic parts can only be samples, so that's no really the thrust of it either. It's really meant is an MPC style drum controller and pattern recorder. And it does that well.

APC40 is the opposite. APC40 = Ableton Mixer controller. It is not good for playing drums and does not allow you to build kits, search sounds or play kits and control drum software. And unlike maschine, it is meant to control ableton's levels, sends, pans and selected device at the same time and triggering clips.
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Re: APC 40 or Maschine ?

Post by Tone Deft » Sun May 31, 2009 7:54 pm

my mpc quivers in fear whenever I mention maschine. if Ableton wasn't slowly sucking me dry with Live 8, APC and max4Live the maschine would be up on the list. meh, I'll buy john gordon's in the fall when he's done with his. should be just after max4Live is released.
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Re: APC 40 or Maschine ?

Post by john gordon » Sun May 31, 2009 8:28 pm

Tone Deft wrote:my mpc quivers in fear whenever I mention maschine. if Ableton wasn't slowly sucking me dry with Live 8, APC and max4Live the maschine would be up on the list. meh, I'll buy john gordon's in the fall when he's done with his. should be just after max4Live is released.
just for that i will keep maschine until the day i die!!!!

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Re: APC 40 or Maschine ?

Post by Android Bishop » Sun May 31, 2009 8:33 pm

john gordon wrote:
Tone Deft wrote:my mpc quivers in fear whenever I mention maschine. if Ableton wasn't slowly sucking me dry with Live 8, APC and max4Live the maschine would be up on the list. meh, I'll buy john gordon's in the fall when he's done with his. should be just after max4Live is released.
just for that i will keep maschine until the day i die!!!!

Well then I'll just have to kill you, wont I?

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Re: APC 40 or Maschine ?

Post by Tone Deft » Sun May 31, 2009 8:34 pm

come fall, you die.

I do quietly lust for the maschine. too many cool toys out there these days.

get the APC and sell it to a Eurogoon for $550.
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Re: APC 40 or Maschine ?

Post by starving student » Sun May 31, 2009 10:42 pm

Android Bishop wrote:
john gordon wrote:
Tone Deft wrote:my mpc quivers in fear whenever I mention maschine. if Ableton wasn't slowly sucking me dry with Live 8, APC and max4Live the maschine would be up on the list. meh, I'll buy john gordon's in the fall when he's done with his. should be just after max4Live is released.
just for that i will keep maschine until the day i die!!!!

Well then I'll just have to kill you, wont I?

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Re: APC 40 or Maschine ?

Post by McQ714 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:21 am

since i picked up my apc yesterday from GC, i now have both. they aren't comparable at all. the only thing they have in common is the fact that they both have knobs, and buttons. maschine does have the ability to function as a controller for Live with it's 16 pads but not nearly as well laid out for that as the APC is with it's 40 buttons for clip launching and the handy little green box that Live adds on screen. Go buy both! I know you want to!!!

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