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Ableton Live 7 + Operator + Sampler for SALE!!!! $350...

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:21 pm
by swpspce
Hi, I am hoping to sell my copy of Ableton Live 7 + Operator + Sampler - I have been in communication with Ableton HQ, and have received confirmation that it is possible to transfer my Ableton Licenses (From Ableton Live 2 to Ableton Live 7). I am asking for ~350$ (Reasonable offers considered).

If you have any questions please contact me: sl at swpspce dot net

Thanks
Elio

Re: Ableton Live 7 + Operator + Sampler for SALE!!!!

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:27 pm
by SMOOTH_LOVIN_CYCLOPS
How much for sampler only?

Re: Ableton Live 7 + Operator + Sampler for SALE!!!!

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:16 pm
by swpspce
Hi, thanks for your interest - although I would rather keep everything together as one package.
I hope you understand.

thanks

Re: Ableton Live 7 + Operator + Sampler for SALE!!!! $350...

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:34 pm
by swpspce
bump!

Re: Ableton Live 7 + Operator + Sampler for SALE!!!! $350...

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:03 pm
by aaronmcg
hi, ill offer $150.
only really need the program.

Re: Ableton Live 7 + Operator + Sampler for SALE!!!! $350...

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:32 am
by Anand
aaronmcg wrote:hi, ill offer $150.
only really need the program.
8O I'll give you live 7 for $150- deal?

Re: Ableton Live 7 + Operator + Sampler for SALE!!!! $350...

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:45 pm
by aaronmcg
Anand wrote:
aaronmcg wrote:hi, ill offer $150.
only really need the program.
8O I'll give you live 7 for $150- deal?
DEAL!
ok, how do we do this?
:)

Re: Ableton Live 7 + Operator + Sampler for SALE!!!! $350...

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:48 pm
by Johnisfaster
I don't trust this at all, prices are too low to be legit if you ask me

Re: Ableton Live 7 + Operator + Sampler for SALE!!!! $350...

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:23 pm
by swpspce
Johnisfaster wrote:I don't trust this at all, prices are too low to be legit if you ask me
are you referring to my asking price of 350$ for the package? Actually 350$ is quite reasonable for Live/Operator/Sampler.

Obviously, if I asked for 500$ for the above package - you would have been interested - because that would appear to be a more legit asking price.
Interesting...

Re: Ableton Live 7 + Operator + Sampler for SALE!!!! $350...

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:39 pm
by aburgener
good luck dude, i tried to offer my suite licenses for $300 and all i heard was crickets chirping

Re: Ableton Live 7 + Operator + Sampler for SALE!!!! $350...

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:58 pm
by gjm
swpspce wrote:
Johnisfaster wrote:I don't trust this at all, prices are too low to be legit if you ask me
are you referring to my asking price of 350$ for the package? Actually 350$ is quite reasonable for Live/Operator/Sampler.

Obviously, if I asked for 500$ for the above package - you would have been interested - because that would appear to be a more legit asking price.
Interesting...
I have been trying to buy a 2nd hand serial for V7 suite for a while now. Problem is, when I factor in the purchase of the V7 serial plus the upgrade cost to V8 boxed (because I want Session Drums), currency exchange and Tax issues, the hassle and risk of buying not from Ableton, and compare it to the price of just upgrading my Lite of LE serials, I end up having to offer a price that is perceived as insulting and low ball. Its usually too low for the seller, or its sold before I get a response.

Whether it is to little or to much (which IMO it is) is up to the buyer. Sellers IMO too often confuse their emotional lovey dovey feelings for Live with the actual fair market price.

Re: Ableton Live 7 + Operator + Sampler for SALE!!!! $350...

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:37 am
by aburgener
gjm wrote:
swpspce wrote:
Johnisfaster wrote:I don't trust this at all, prices are too low to be legit if you ask me
are you referring to my asking price of 350$ for the package? Actually 350$ is quite reasonable for Live/Operator/Sampler.

Obviously, if I asked for 500$ for the above package - you would have been interested - because that would appear to be a more legit asking price.
Interesting...
I have been trying to buy a 2nd hand serial for V7 suite for a while now. Problem is, when I factor in the purchase of the V7 serial plus the upgrade cost to V8 boxed (because I want Session Drums), currency exchange and Tax issues, the hassle and risk of buying not from Ableton, and compare it to the price of just upgrading my Lite of LE serials, I end up having to offer a price that is perceived as insulting and low ball. Its usually too low for the seller, or its sold before I get a response.

Whether it is to little or to much (which IMO it is) is up to the buyer. Sellers IMO too often confuse their emotional lovey dovey feelings for Live with the actual fair market price.
Really? Cause I told you I was fine with your price when we spoke via pm.

I also don't understand the perceived risk of buying a download version from a forum member, Ableton's still going to be the ones transferring the licenses - and as long as that's possible then what's the deal?

Re: Ableton Live 7 + Operator + Sampler for SALE!!!! $350...

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:25 am
by gjm
aburgener wrote:
gjm wrote:I have been trying to buy a 2nd hand serial for V7 suite for a while now. Problem is, when I factor in the purchase of the V7 serial plus the upgrade cost to V8 boxed (because I want Session Drums), currency exchange and Tax issues, the hassle and risk of buying not from Ableton, and compare it to the price of just upgrading my Lite of LE serials, I end up having to offer a price that is perceived as insulting and low ball. Its usually too low for the seller, or its sold before I get a response.

Whether it is to little or to much (which IMO it is) is up to the buyer. Sellers IMO too often confuse their emotional lovey dovey feelings for Live with the actual fair market price.
Really? Cause I told you I was fine with your price when we spoke via pm.

I also don't understand the perceived risk of buying a download version from a forum member, Ableton's still going to be the ones transferring the licenses - and as long as that's possible then what's the deal?
Hey, I realised after I posted that you might be thinking that my comment was directly aimed at you. Not so. I missed out on getting DJGrobes serial, and he got more for it than I was willing to pay, taking into consideration the above mentioned. I would have payed more than simply buying straight from the Abes shop. Your serial is still in my sights, but as I mentioned to you, I had recently shelled out for Jam Packs and need some time to get the freight together. If my communication with the Abes regarding an upgrade path to V8 Boxed Suite via your serial is solid, then there is a small economic advantage for me which is good. Anything helps. If you are fortunate enough though to shift your serial before I can get it then all is good.

The risk factor comes from serials bought with fraudulent means. Abes clearly state on their website that if they catch wind they will cancel the serial. I am cautious when someone enters the forum with minimal post count and virtually no presence to speak of and wants to unload a serial. The risk is perceived, but I do think community presence and participation can help form positive reputation/perception (mind you I been fleeced before by the so called best of the best).

Stay in touch, I certainly will, hopefully this works out for the both of us. :)

Cheers. G.

Re: Ableton Live 7 + Operator + Sampler for SALE!!!! $350...

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:56 pm
by swpspce
gjm wrote: I am cautious when someone enters the forum with minimal post count and virtually no presence to speak of and wants to unload a serial.
Regardless of my "community" participation - here is the response from Ableton HQ... Piece of mind.

Dear ----,

Thanks for emailing Ableton.

Yes, you can sell your license. Please note that only an entire Live license can be transferred. All Live versions and corresponding serial numbers contained in the license will be acquired by the new owner.

This means your serials from Live 2 to Live 7 plus instruments will all be transferred together since they are one license.


To transfer ownership, we require the following information from you, as the current owner:

1. The serials to be transferred

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

2. The email address the current owner is registered with

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

3. The new owner's full name

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

4. The new owner's email address

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

5. The new owner's country of residence

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

As soon as we receive this information from you we will transfer the license to the new owner's user account at Ableton.com.

Feel free to contact us should you have any further questions.

Best regards,
Stacey

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-----Original Message-----
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:56:02 -0400
To: customercare@ableton.com
Subject: Question about License Transfer


Good day Ableton,

I am currently researching the possibility of selling my copy of
Ableton Live + Sampler/ Operator.

I would like to know if I can transfer the license to another user -
if of course someone would be interested in the above options ;)

I look forward to your response.

Thanking you,
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