Trying to find best sound card for using Guitar Rig in Live

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dave247
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Trying to find best sound card for using Guitar Rig in Live

Post by dave247 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:47 pm

I want to use Reason 4 and Guitar Rig 3 within Live as VST plug-ins but I have no sound card, just onboard sound. There is like 187 ms of latency and I want to get that as low as possible.

I run latest version of Live on Vista 32-bit system with i7 Quad core CPU and plenty of ram. Would a sound card me the best fix for this latency?

I need some sound card suggestions (not Soundblaster of course).

I saw this: http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/pr ... 701346#new but I really dont need the input hardware since I am recording guitar through Guitar Rig's VST Plug-in through Live

any help is appreciated

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Re: Trying to find best sound card for using Guitar Rig in Live

Post by UKRuss » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:25 pm

Motu Ultralite. Job done.

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Re: Trying to find best sound card for using Guitar Rig in Live

Post by dave247 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:32 pm

UKRuss wrote:Motu Ultralite. Job done.
lol nice but its out of my price range :cry: . I'm looking to spend a maximum of $200 USD

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Re: Trying to find best sound card for using Guitar Rig in Live

Post by aburgener » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:33 pm

Guitar Rig Mobile / Guitar Rig Session

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Re: Trying to find best sound card for using Guitar Rig in Live

Post by McQ714 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:34 pm

yes, an audio interface would most likely be the solution to your problem. what kind of computer do you have? custom built or store bought? do you know what firewire chipset the motherboard has? what expansion slots do you have open?

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Re: Trying to find best sound card for using Guitar Rig in Live

Post by astromass » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:35 pm

native instruments audio kontrol1 works great for me...and it's cheap/
nyquist theorem and nyquil...

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Re: Trying to find best sound card for using Guitar Rig in Live

Post by stringtapper » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:38 pm

dave247 wrote:
UKRuss wrote:Motu Ultralite. Job done.
lol nice but its out of my price range :cry: . I'm looking to spend a maximum of $200 USD
Then you're looking to have relatively high latency.

Also I'm confused as to what you mean when you say you don't need the "input hardware" on the M-Audio. You have to have an input if you're hoping to run a guitar through GT3, so...?
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Re: Trying to find best sound card for using Guitar Rig in Live

Post by dave247 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:39 pm

McQ714 wrote:yes, an audio interface would most likely be the solution to your problem. what kind of computer do you have? custom built or store bought? do you know what firewire chipset the motherboard has? what expansion slots do you have open?
I have a custom built pc I made a few months ago: Intel i7 quad core cpu with an EVGA X58 motherboard. It has Firewire 1394A

I have some PCIE slots open as well as two PCI slots. So I would go with a PCIE sound card.

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Re: Trying to find best sound card for using Guitar Rig in Live

Post by dave247 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:42 pm

stringtapper wrote:
dave247 wrote:
UKRuss wrote:Motu Ultralite. Job done.
lol nice but its out of my price range :cry: . I'm looking to spend a maximum of $200 USD
Then you're looking to have relatively high latency.

Also I'm confused as to what you mean when you say you don't need the "input hardware" on the M-Audio. You have to have an input if you're hoping to run a guitar through GT3, so...?
No I will be playing my guitar through the USB device that connects to my computer that works with Guitar Rig. There is no latency when I do that. The latency comes when I open up Live and add the Guitar Rig 3 VST plug-in to my guitar track. I am NOT directly recording the output from a 1/4 inch jack.

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Re: Trying to find best sound card for using Guitar Rig in Live

Post by McQ714 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:47 pm

dave247 wrote:
McQ714 wrote:yes, an audio interface would most likely be the solution to your problem. what kind of computer do you have? custom built or store bought? do you know what firewire chipset the motherboard has? what expansion slots do you have open?
I have a custom built pc I made a few months ago: Intel i7 quad core cpu with an EVGA X58 motherboard. It has Firewire 1394A

I have some PCIE slots open as well as two PCI slots. So I would go with a PCIE sound card.
well if you're wanting to go the PCIe card route, than you're gonna have to spend some more money. $200 just won't cut it.

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Re: Trying to find best sound card for using Guitar Rig in Live

Post by dave247 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:48 pm

McQ714 wrote:
dave247 wrote:
McQ714 wrote:yes, an audio interface would most likely be the solution to your problem. what kind of computer do you have? custom built or store bought? do you know what firewire chipset the motherboard has? what expansion slots do you have open?
I have a custom built pc I made a few months ago: Intel i7 quad core cpu with an EVGA X58 motherboard. It has Firewire 1394A

I have some PCIE slots open as well as two PCI slots. So I would go with a PCIE sound card.
well if you're wanting to go the PCIe card route, than you're gonna have to spend some more money. $200 just won't cut it.

Found this: http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/pr ... 581021#new

Will that cut it?

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Re: Trying to find best sound card for using Guitar Rig in Live

Post by aburgener » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:48 pm

That looks like a piece of shit, check your PMs. 8)

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Re: Trying to find best sound card for using Guitar Rig in Live

Post by dave247 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:07 pm

aburgener wrote:That looks like a piece of shit, check your PMs. 8)
i sent u a reply :)

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Re: Trying to find best sound card for using Guitar Rig in Live

Post by 4.33 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:15 pm

native instrumens audio kontrol 1
nothing beats it in its price range

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Re: Trying to find best sound card for using Guitar Rig in Live

Post by McQ714 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:26 pm

do yourself a favor and save a little more cash before you make a purchase. you'll be glad you did. and you don't have to have an audio card. you can get a firewire interface. Focusrite has a nice one coming out soon for $300. has got some really good features for the price.

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