Does Your APC40 Work Through a Powered Hub?

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contakt321
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Does Your APC40 Work Through a Powered Hub?

Post by contakt321 » Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:30 am

Mine doesn't.

Wondering if my powered hub is junk or what (even though everything else works).

Anyone care to share?


Having some severe USB issues with:

APC40 needed to be plugged in direct
MAschine to be plugged in direct

USB interface, Novation 37SL, misc other stuff...

And only 2 USB ports on my MacBook. Bad times.

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Re: Does Your APC40 Work Through a Powered Hub?

Post by jeffplaysmoog » Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:51 am

Mine does. Linksys 4-port USB router, Mac Book Pro. My Motu MIDI router does not work with it however...
Mac Book Pro 2.33ghz, 2gig Ram, OS 10.5, Ableton Live 8 Suite, APC40

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Re: Does Your APC40 Work Through a Powered Hub?

Post by Suicide Server » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:02 am

I am running the APC40 also on a powerd 7bus Hub from Belkin. On the same hub are also Maschine and Kore2 and a Midi Keyboard and devices are working like a charm. No latency or other issues. I also use a portable 4bus Hub from Logitech when im on Stage and never had any problems.

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Re: Does Your APC40 Work Through a Powered Hub?

Post by OlafOverDJ » Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:11 pm

Please do not forget to add a power-supply to your USB-Hub everytime.
I say everytime because of safety and security reasons, that all your devices will work properly.

USB has the same effect like an extension-cable if you work with your electrical tools in the garden:
It comes to an point, where Power-Consumption is getting too much...

500 mA per USB-Port is Standart. So on a 4-times Hub, your PC can not support 2 Ampere for 4 Devices !
Too long USB-Cables with a small diameter of each wire results in an higher resistance of the cable.
If power breaks down on usb, you receive a lot of trash-data.

Solution :
Add a Power Supply,
keep cables and wireing short

If you follow this, you'll have a stable system like hell ... ;-)

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Re: Does Your APC40 Work Through a Powered Hub?

Post by contakt321 » Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:24 pm

Thanks for chiming in guys, sounds like I have a crappy USB powered hubs.

Would any of you gents mind looking at the actual model name for your hub and posting it - just want to make sure I get something that works.

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Re: Does Your APC40 Work Through a Powered Hub?

Post by Tarekith » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:23 pm

Mine works fine through the crappy hub built into my Dell 2001FP monitor.

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Re: Does Your APC40 Work Through a Powered Hub?

Post by deepdirtydub » Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:35 pm

http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductP ... _Id=158910

This one works great.

AFAIK Most cheap USB hubs don't actually have separate individual USB circuits for each port. They just double up internally and thats when you run into problems.

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Re: Does Your APC40 Work Through a Powered Hub?

Post by Suicide Server » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:58 am

deepdirtydub wrote:http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductP ... _Id=158910

This one works great.

AFAIK Most cheap USB hubs don't actually have separate individual USB circuits for each port. They just double up internally and thats when you run into problems.
Yep thats the same model is use and its been great so far.

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Re: Does Your APC40 Work Through a Powered Hub?

Post by outsidesys » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:26 pm

deepdirtydub wrote:http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductP ... _Id=158910

This one works great.

AFAIK Most cheap USB hubs don't actually have separate individual USB circuits for each port. They just double up internally and thats when you run into problems.
Read some reviews for the hub here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductRe ... 6817394008

It appears to have heat issues, and a high failure rate after one year. I'm not saying yours will, but it is something to consider.

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