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me vs hi hats
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:04 am
by the_antagonist
Track has been returned to me for better hihats. I have always had problems with hihats. am I missing a trick?
any advise?
coming from the house techno background that is..
Re: me vs hi hats
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:06 am
by smartass303
what is *better*?
303
Re: me vs hi hats
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:10 am
by timothyallan
Make the decay of the open hat match the groove, and don't eq the shit out of the top end.
Re: me vs hi hats
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:19 am
by the_antagonist
better? dunno. but i went back to the track and just wasnt happy so much
its the closed closed open closed job at the start of here:
http://soundcloud.com/antagonist_the/th ... r-face-pt2
how do we mean decay? the reverb decay, and how can i match the groove?
Re: me vs hi hats
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:31 am
by timothyallan
heres my suggestions on a 5 second listen
a. dont pan them so hard, or pan something else... they're the only elements in the entire track that are panned.
b. vary them a bit more
c. put something on the offbeat
Re: me vs hi hats
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:47 am
by smartass303
too much panning on the hats
the charakter of the hats is too different, try other hats
vary the pattern once in a while
303
Re: me vs hi hats
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:54 am
by the_antagonist
differnt charater to the other hihat sections or different character to each other? panning was the first thing i eliminated.
Re: me vs hi hats
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:13 pm
by necho
No audio at work, so I can't listen to the tune....
but have you tried putting a sidechained AutoFilter on the hat track - sidechained to the kick or other percussion?
Re: me vs hi hats
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:19 pm
by timothyallan
necho wrote:No audio at work, so I can't listen to the tune....
but have you tried putting a sidechained AutoFilter on the hat track - sidechained to the kick or other percussion?
Perhaps you should listen to the track.
Re: me vs hi hats
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:21 pm
by the_antagonist
more of a tap tap tap hat as opposed to a techno tssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!! job.
technical term.
Re: me vs hi hats
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:33 pm
by logic_user99
Velocity radomisation is your friend with all hi hat parts.
Re: me vs hi hats
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:02 pm
by Mehalic
I like the track!
For me, my thing with percussion and HH's these days is layering. I usually layer 2 or 3 different HH's over top of each other and then give each their own effect. Can get you really nice crunchy sounding percussion that sits really well in a mix. To me, your HH's do sound a bit weak, try to fatten them up a bit (either with layering, efx or whatever is your personal touch).
One other tip if your using Live 8, don't forget about the vocoder for percussion. You'd be surprised the type of results you can get
Re: me vs hi hats
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:37 pm
by necho
timothyallan wrote:necho wrote:No audio at work, so I can't listen to the tune....
but have you tried putting a sidechained AutoFilter on the hat track - sidechained to the kick or other percussion?
Perhaps you should listen to the track.
ummm - no audio at work?!?
Just trying to help.....
Re: me vs hi hats
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:38 pm
by Aequitas123
after a 5 second listen my first thought was the sample was just bad. try a better quality or different sounding open and closed hat sound. i'd go for something more real and less synth/drum machine.
Re: me vs hi hats
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:51 pm
by McQ714
i think those 2 sounds clash. the hat sounds ok but the other metal clang one doesn't fit IMHO. try just using the hat. might flow better. companies make matching cymbals kits because they usually sound good together. don't pan the hat.. but give it some stereo width. sometimes i'll put a slight doubling effect on my hats.
but what do i know? i've never finished a track and been completely satisfied with it!