Programming Dubstep drums at 70 BPM instead of 140

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Programming Dubstep drums at 70 BPM instead of 140

Post by Trypset » Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:00 pm

pros and cons?
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Re: Programming Dubstep drums at 70 BPM instead of 140

Post by Mehalic » Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:04 pm

This may sound like a stupid question, but what exactly does the drum programming (time signature) for dub step look like (I know you've got the snare on the 2 and 4 again right, and the kick doesn't sound like any typical breaks that I know). I haven't listened to it enough to figure it out and too lazy to go looking. Any chance you care to share?

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Re: Programming Dubstep drums at 70 BPM instead of 140

Post by pulsoc » Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:05 pm

cons - you have to make a proportionately smaller grid to program the same beats (e.g. 1/32 instead of 1/16)

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Re: Programming Dubstep drums at 70 BPM instead of 140

Post by pulsoc » Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:11 pm

Mehalic wrote:This may sound like a stupid question, but what exactly does the drum programming (time signature) for dub step look like
Dubstep has actually got a lot of range as far as drum patterns. It is one of the more flexible genres for that, although it does tend to be marked by skittering trebly percussive elements.

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Re: Programming Dubstep drums at 70 BPM instead of 140

Post by re.mark » Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:18 pm

Mehalic wrote:This may sound like a stupid question, but what exactly does the drum programming (time signature) for dub step look like (I know you've got the snare on the 2 and 4 again right, and the kick doesn't sound like any typical breaks that I know). I haven't listened to it enough to figure it out and too lazy to go looking. Any chance you care to share?

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actually, for dusbtep at 140 the snares on the 3 8)

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Re: Programming Dubstep drums at 70 BPM instead of 140

Post by KainProject » Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:24 pm

I'd do it the other way around: program at double the speed you want.
I use that on hardware drum machines a lot to get extra quantization.

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Re: Programming Dubstep drums at 70 BPM instead of 140

Post by Trypset » Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:35 pm

word, good ideas.

I use a korg es-1 MKII to program drum beats

never tried it at 280. Will do when i get home.
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Re: Programming Dubstep drums at 70 BPM instead of 140

Post by bosonHavoc » Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:15 pm

for me at 70 bpm the click track puts me to sleep and messes up my timing when i am tapping out rhythms. so i like 140 better because i can just lay back and jam..
its easier for me to play cut time to a click rather then double time.

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Re: Programming Dubstep drums at 70 BPM instead of 140

Post by Trypset » Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:26 pm

what up boson, hope you are doing all right.

That's really what I am going for is more of a halfstep feel....but actually understanding it and beating it out to my liking is why I was looking for more ideas.

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Re: Programming Dubstep drums at 70 BPM instead of 140

Post by C.S. » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:03 pm

program a fairly lively 1 bar break at 140 with the snares on the 2 & 4. In the clip properties switch double the bpm from 140 to 280. Change to loop length to 2 bars. Instant half-step break with the snares on the 3. Or, do the same with a 70bpm loop and change it to 140. Whatever suits your style.

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Re: Programming Dubstep drums at 70 BPM instead of 140

Post by contakt321 » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:06 pm

I have always worked at 140, but now I am curious about doing a track at 70 and see if it puts me in a different zone creatively. I am going to try it.

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Re: Programming Dubstep drums at 70 BPM instead of 140

Post by Saxer » Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:40 am

wasting live time with a longer count in on 70

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Re: Programming Dubstep drums at 70 BPM instead of 140

Post by chapelier fou » Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:27 am

Is it still dubstep at 141 BPM ?
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Re: Programming Dubstep drums at 70 BPM instead of 140

Post by dazzer » Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:00 am

chapelier fou wrote:Is it still dubstep at 141 BPM ?
Nope, then it instantly becomes experimental violin music.

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Re: Programming Dubstep drums at 70 BPM instead of 140

Post by Hermanus » Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:57 am

All depends on what you wanna do.

You could also raise the bpm to 280... the real bpm feels 140 all the way, at 70 - 140 or 280bpm.

You could even go to the extreme 560 :lol:

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