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classical music

Post by hurlingdervish » Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:34 am

i need to get some more...but there is so much crap

hundreds of years of crap that is.

and i thought finding good electronic music was hard.


im looking for darker stuff if that helps. none of that whimsical disney stuff

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Re: classical music

Post by adventurepants_ » Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:50 am

Gorecki Symphony No. 3 "Symphony of Sorrowful Songs"

modern (1920s)
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Re: classical music

Post by Android Bishop » Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:53 am

no disney shit?

get Shostakovitch

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Re: classical music

Post by ark » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:14 am

Android Bishop wrote:get Shostakovitch
I'll second that suggestion.

Many years ago, I heard the Guarneri Quartet play Shostakovich's 7th quartet. You can hear short samples by going here and playing the samples from disc 3, tracks 1-3.

My reaction was "I never knew music like this existed!" It just grabbed my ears and wouldn't let go. And I had heard a lot of classical music before then.

He wrote 15 quartets. They're very different from each other, so I doubt you'll love all of them. Still, it's amazing music, and for $26 including shipping, you can hear all 15 of them played by one of the world's great quartets.

I've got lots of other recommendations, but would be curious to know what you think of these fragments first.

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Re: classical music

Post by Silverfish » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:19 am

I'm pretty sure "crap" is a subjective term (unless you're talking about Baroque music)...

+1 for Shostakovitch
Rachmaninoff
Schoenberg
Beethoven Symphony 7 (hell, all of the Beethoven symphonies)
Greig - Peer Gynt
Anything Wagner
Schubert - Death and the Maiden (Der Tot und Das Madchen)
Allegri - Miseri Mei
Also, look for Eastern European choral music. Some of that stuff will peel the paint off the walls. (Litany to Thunder, for example)
I could go on and on...


I hope this helps.
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Re: classical music

Post by hurlingdervish » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:48 am

adventurepants_ wrote:Gorecki Symphony No. 3 "Symphony of Sorrowful Songs"

modern (1920s)
that was good thanks


ark wrote:
Android Bishop wrote:get Shostakovitch
I'll second that suggestion.

Many years ago, I heard the Guarneri Quartet play Shostakovich's 7th quartet. You can hear short samples by going here and playing the samples from disc 3, tracks 1-3.

I've got lots of other recommendations, but would be curious to know what you think of these fragments first.
pretty cool stuff
hit or miss though for me, i checked out some other stuff and i wasn't feeling it too much, but the tension on the strings there is great


also is there any more stuff like this out there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpWVJwFDDzA

or stuff like the piano on the beginning of Phillip Glass Glassworks. I know of Steve Reich, i love his piano phase stuff too

and the crap i was referring to was Baroque you are correct :D

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Re: classical music

Post by ark » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:52 am

Silverfish wrote:I'm pretty sure "crap" is a subjective term (unless you're talking about Baroque music)...
Well, there's Baroque music and there's Bach, who is in a league by himself.

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Re: classical music

Post by adventurepants_ » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:44 am

hurlingdervish wrote:
adventurepants_ wrote:Gorecki Symphony No. 3 "Symphony of Sorrowful Songs"

modern (1920s)
that was good thanks
Listen to that shit LOUD. the passages in the beginning are nearly inaudible in an uncompressed CD version. theres several minutes of very quiet menacing bass before anything else happens.

You might also like the "Reich Remixed" album. Not dark, but some really interesting treatments of his stuff.
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Re: classical music

Post by Lazos » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:35 am

I agree adventurepants. And on headphones too.

No one's mentioned Early European music. Especially some Gregorian chant or plainsong. "Vere Dignum" comes to mind. but the vocal melodies are often beautiful and sometimes nice and dark in a way that more complex and later pieces in the Western art music canon don't seem to achieve for me.

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Re: classical music

Post by Tarekith » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:41 am

Anything by Mahler.

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Re: classical music

Post by DangerousDave » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:42 am

Paganini was dark...A lot of his stuff will make your jaw hit the ground...but thats more virtuoso/solo performance stuff, not symphonic.

**So dark in fact that the people of the time swore he was either posessed by the devil or was the devil himself.
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Re: classical music

Post by 4.33 » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:58 am

hurlingdervish wrote:
also is there any more stuff like this out there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpWVJwFDDzA
New Tango Orquesta
it's neoclassic plus a noticeable presence of Astor Piazzolla
it's a sheer diamond, and I believe has got the feel you're after

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Re: classical music

Post by oblique strategies » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:26 am

You'll find all these dark & scary items on the soundtrack to 'The Exorcist':
Hans Werner Henze - Fantasia For Strings
Anton Webern - Five Pieces For Orchestra, Op 10
Krzysztof Penderecki - Polymorphia; String Quartet (1960)

And these on 'The Shining' soundtrack:
Gyorgy Ligeti - Lontano
Bela Bartok - Music For Strings, Percussion & Celesta
Krzysztof Penderecki - Utrenja (Excerpt); The Awakening of Jacob; De Natura Sonoris #1; De Natura Sonoris #2; Polymorphia

Be afraid, be very afraid...

If you like opera then Benjamin Britten's 'Peter Grimes' is a remarkable piece of work, sort of like the classical/opera version of Nine Inch Nails 'The Downward Spiral'. Astonishing music!

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Re: classical music

Post by leonard » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:12 am

Johann Sebastian Bach - Komm, süßer Tod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXnTujrJN9U

this is my favorite piece of music ever
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Re: classical music

Post by 8O » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:24 am

leonard wrote:Johann Sebastian Bach - Komm, süßer Tod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXnTujrJN9U

this is my favorite piece of music ever
+1 Stunning.
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